Adding a betta (pair)

The2dCour

I have an established aquarium with 6 cory cat 5 kuhli loach 7 endlers some mystery snails and amano shrimp in a 20g high. I keep the pH around 7 and temp is 75. The tank is planted well with floaters, stems, bulbs, etc. Water is faily soft at like 4* hardness.

The fish I have been looking at are some wild caught or F1 bettas like the ones from Coccina complex maybe Persephone. Does this tank seems like a good home for a pair of betta like these? I know I'll probably have to increase the temp for wild caught, but are there any other possible catches or hang-ups one of you astute internet denizens can see?
 

BigManAquatics

Only thing i wonder about initially is if there is enough space. Haven't had experience with the wild caught or the F1 bettas, so i have no extra insight, there.
 
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The2dCour

They are small fish under 1.5-1.8 inches.
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BettasAreSuperior

I think bioload wise you are definitely fully stocked.
 
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BigManAquatics

They are small fish under 1.5-1.8 inches.
Here is a pic of the tank in question.
That snail!! As with any betta, i suppose it's worth a try. Just make sure you have a back up plan in case things go to hades.
 
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julifhy

I never heard of F1 bettas before so I can't say much about them, but I do know a few things about coccina an persephone bettas. They aren't recommended for community tanks, but they should be fine with bottom feeders. I'm not surehow well they would get along well with the endlers though or how flexible they are when it comes to water parameters, so I can't really help with that. Both need a pH of 4.0-6.0 and a hardness of 18-90 ppm.

Great tank btw!
 
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The2dCour

I never heard of F1 bettas before so I can't say much about them, but I do know a few things about coccina an persephone bettas. They aren't recommended for community tanks, but they should be fine with bottom feeders. I'm not surehow well they would get along well with the endlers though or how flexible they are when it comes to water parameters, so I can't really help with that. Both need a pH of 4.0-6.0 and a hardness of 18-90 ppm.

Great tank btw!
F1 is the designation for fry of wild caught parents. They are supposed to be more flexible than true wild caught.
 
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Burdigala

F1 Bettas are the first generation of offsprings to be raised in captivity, which means that their parents are wild-caught. With regards to your stocking, I'm going to say it probably won't work. Wild Bettas tend to be reclusive, which is why it is better to keep any wild Betta in a species-only aquarium. Any boisterous fish, such as the endlers, will make the Bettas prone to hiding. Not to mention, but all species of Bettas in the coccina complex are threatened, so it's best as hobbyists to try and breed them.
 
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The2dCour

F1 Bettas are the first generation of offsprings to be raised in captivity, which means that their parents are wild-caught. With regards to your stocking, I'm going to say it probably won't work. Wild Bettas tend to be reclusive, which is why it is better to keep any wild Betta in a species-only aquarium. Any boisterous fish, such as the endlers, will make the Bettas prone to hiding. Not to mention, but all species of Bettas in the coccina complex are threatened, so it's best as hobbyists to try and breed them.
Ok sounds about right. Thanks for the input.
 
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The_fishy

I have wild and F1 Betta albimarginata. The activity of the cories and the loaches would be what concerns me. On one hand, they may act as dithers for the shy fish, but on the other, they might annoy them into hiding or outcompete them for food. I do know that if you get F1 or later, the fish will be more comfortable in aquarium life and thus more outgoing. My wilds are more shy with feeding and activity, but the F1 are always out in the open begging for food.

EDIT: Also, not all of the species want very warm water all of the time. Be sure to check with each you consider.
 
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The2dCour

I have wild and F1 Betta albimarginata. The activity of the cories and the loaches would be what concerns me. On one hand, they may act as dithers for the shy fish, but on the other, they might annoy them into hiding or outcompete them for food. I do know that if you get F1 or later, the fish will be more comfortable in aquarium life and thus more outgoing. My wilds are more shy with feeding and activity, but the F1 are always out in the open begging for food.

EDIT: Also, not all of the species want very warm water all of the time. Be sure to check with each you consider.
I was wondering about the loaches and cory, the loaches are up and down all day and the corydoras are active in the middle.

Im definitely not adding bettas to this tank, thanks for everyones input.
 
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