I know my opinion on this is in the minority. Lots of respectable fish folks swear by the stuff and I respect that, and I believe they've had success using cycle boosters. I also believe most of the people who are successful using cycle boosters also have a comparatively high level of knowledge of aquariums, and that knowledge makes or breaks the process.
Just to tag in for second bill,Well, ... 10 year's ... Wow, Impressive.
I've been doing this for over 40 years and I think If you truly been doing this for the 10 years as you say you've been in this hobby, ... then I think you have been doing this long enough to know what you said is utter hogwash with no plausible excuse to rely on for your misstatement. Just because YOU cannot wrap your head around the science and understanding of how these newfangled types of product's work, doesn't mean that it's "Snake Oil" as you say. It just simply means you don't understand it is as the rest of us do, ... fine. But to say that it's Snake Oil is just careless at best.
Seachem never told you it was for "Emergency Use Only", ... That my friend I know did not happen. It is a dechlorinate and that's it. It's emergency benefit's is the same as any other brands.
Either your missing some basic understanding of how things work or your being willfully blind. So let's go over a few basics.
Fish DO NOT require Beneficial Bacteria (BB) to survive, ... PERIOD!
A fish can live on a constant supply of dechlorinated water. Plant's not so much.
A fish could survive it's entire naturally long life in an aquarium without a single living BB ever having existing in the tank.
The ONLY benefit BB has in your aquarium is for YOU and your plant's. Without it it's a lot of work on your end.
I do agree we should only be helping with CORRECT information by avoiding Myth's and lies. But the only false information being said in this thread is what your saying about BB supplement's.
The whole key is to use a Dechlorinator WITH a BB supplement.
I think the trick to using bacteria cultures is timing. In cycling, AOB starts first, replicates relatively rapidly and consumes ammonia rapidly. Commercial bacterial cultures provide those cultures with a finite amount of ammonia when packaging that is consumed fairly quickly. As those cultures age, AOB deplete the available ammonia source and often end up dying before the bottle hits the consumers hands. NOB on the other hand, replicate and consume nutrients at about half the speed of AOB. They survive shelf storage much longer. I think this is why many people who use bacterial cultures see ammonia spiking in a new aquarium, but never see nitrites- because the AOB that were in the bottle are dead and gone but NOB are still viable.I know my opinion on this is in the minority. Lots of respectable fish folks swear by the stuff and I respect that, and I believe they've had success using cycle boosters. I also believe most of the people who are successful using cycle boosters also have a comparatively high level of knowledge of aquariums, and that knowledge makes or breaks the process.
Just to tag in for second bill,
Also, api isn't anywhere near the best test kit. It just happens to be cheap, available, and decent enough.
Anyone who just parrots things needs to re examine their positions periodically. Tss, one and only, and some other products have figured out how to do this. I have never gotten a fish less cycle to work. Ever! I have kept a cycle going while fishless and made it more robust, but every single fish tank I set up has been fish in with tss+.
And honestly, your tax stamp to the state to be a breeder doesn't mean anything to anyone. We all have plenty of instances with business owners who have been selling fish for decades still getting plenty wrong. Stop spamming threads because you feel your way is the only correct and morally superior one. It doesn't help the OP, and discourages anyone from providing the info the OP wants.
Whoa whoa! I was piggybacking off you! Sorry for the confusion!
- I never said API was the best at anything.
- I alway's give personal examples of my experience so, ... When did I parrot anything?
- TSS, ... (Tetra Safe Start), ... Iv'e never used the stuff.
- Breeder's Tax Stamp? Can you show me anywhere I said I have one? Iv'e been breeding for over 40 year's but never went through any program, nor can you point to where I stated such a thing.
- NOWHERE have I EVER stated my way is the best, ... EVER! I have only simply pointed out what has worked for myself and I also provide links from well known sources.
- Spamming? ... Perhaps you should read the definition of Spamming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming
- My way, ... is "MY" way and I don't force it on anyone, ... it's simply my way. I am willing to share the way I do thing's as I am an open book. If one want's to hear it, ... go ahead and read what I said. If someone doesn't, ... then don't read it.
- Again, I force nothing on know one.
- Read my signature