Ada 45p Forest Scape

Nigel95
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So I started with a nano tank and sold it pretty quick to go "bigger". I was thinking about a second high tech setup and wanted to buy an ada 60p. But I decided to go smaller and go for the ada 45p as I already have an eheim 2211 with 2 sets of lily pipes which I can use for this setup. It will cost less plants, soil etc. but IMO it's harder to scape a nano tank. Tried my best to create some depth in this 45x27x30 cm tank.

Specs planted tank aquarium
Tank ADA 45P
45x27x30 cm
34 litre

Lighting
Daytime eco 40

Hardscape
Lava rock
Spiderwood

Substrate
ADA Aqua Soil

Shrimp
35 Neocaridina heteropoda var. Yellow

Fish
Rasbora brigittae

Snails
3 Clithon sp.

Plants
fissidens fontanus
fissidens fox
flame moss
weeping moss
riccardia chamedryfolia
usukI moss
buce moss
riccardia sp graeffei
crepidomanes malabaricum

Co2
Pressurized CO2 with a diffusor
Co2 checker edge (30 ppm)

Heater
Hydor eth 200 temperature 23 celcius

Filter
Eheim classic 150

Hardscape

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Yoghurt method moss dsm

Day 42

Day 56

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Day 86

Light unit
7000k
CRI 90
1320 lumens

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FlutterFish
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Looks great! I like how the thinner spiderwood branches at the end overlap with one another, it makes it look very natural.

That lone branch on the right side catches my eye a bit - maybe move it a little to the left?
 
Sean Smith
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If your gonna put them with neocardinia . Choose the smaller of those two species . Looks good and the shrinpnwill love the moss set up design . Goodluck
 
Fanatic
  • #4
I like the driftwood!
Always liked forest tanks.
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Another cabinet didn't really like the other one. Only €5 and painted it with some old black paint that we have at home. Front will be hidden with a piece of fabric.


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Pieces are waterlogging to remove slimy coat.

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Geno
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Looks like a nice concept can't wait to see more,
 
Nigel95
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  • #7
Made a good deal on a dennerle co2 system. Equipment is coming slowly together...


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Not sure what I will do in this tank: diffuser or inline atomizer..
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
Tank arrived

ADA is expensive but the tank looks beautiful!! Really happy with it.

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Plan is to use the following plants:
fissidens fontanus
fissidens fox
flame moss
weeping moss
riccardia chamedryfolia
usukI moss
crepidomanes malabaricum
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
double post please delete
 

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Jocelyn Adelman
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Any progress?
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Any progress?

This week the plants will arrive so will keep you guys updated Probably this weekend.
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
Nothing better than the smell of a fresh opened aqua soil bag

Here is the hardscape of my ada 45p forest. Hope you like it!
 
Jocelyn Adelman
  • #13
Love
Did you use the yogurt method again?
Dsm or plant and flood?
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
Love
Did you use the yogurt method again?
Dsm or plant and flood?

Thanks

Still waiting for mosses from germany. I will use the yoghurt method again. So far only weeping moss on the trees in the scape. Will dsm the tank for around 1 month.
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #15
Mosses came in today
Got some usukI for free but it can only tolerate max 22 celcius. My tank will be 23 so not sure if it will survive.

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Planted 1 month dry start now so the mosses will attach to hardscape.

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Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
New stuff came in

Hopefully the hydor eth 200 will last a "long" time on my ada 45p. After reading it doesn't seem the best choice for a nano tank. But I don't really wanna build one my self or have a heater in the tank. So fingers crossed!

The eheim skI'm 350 is great but when I have to clean it, I have to remove it completely from the tank and always several shrimps are in there. So I decided to try the ocean free surfclear. The sponge can be removed when the skimmer is in tank and it has a safe guard for shrimps and fish. It's a little less strong than the eheim skI'm 350 but no problem because it is only an ada 45p.

I needed a thermometer and decided to buy one from ADA.


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Unfortunately my weeping moss is turning yellow/brown on the branches. It receives a lot of light. I spray two times a day and leave 2 openings open to reduce the chance of mold. Although there is already some mold growing. Hard to find the "perfect" balance to keep moss moisture enough and avoid mold. Also hard to remove the mold because I made some roots on the trees and it isn't very firmly attached with fishing line.
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #17
Received some bucephalandra moss from someone. Very happy with it. It grows low, compact and is not demanding.


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Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #18
Day 25
Cycle is going fast with the eheim classic 150 that already has bacteria in it and the soil that has been in DSM for 3 weeks. Think I am going to add the Neocaridina heteropoda var. Yellow and clithon sp. after 3 weeks from now. Hopefully there will be enough biofilm by that time.


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Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
Day 25
Cycle is going fast with the eheim classic 150 that already has bacteria in it and the soil that has been in DSM for 3 weeks. Think I am going to add the Neocaridina heteropoda var. Yellow and clithon sp. after 3 weeks from now. Hopefully there will be enough biofilm by that time.


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Natalya
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Lovely!
 
Nigel95
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  • #21
Day 42
Roots and Neocaridina cf. davidI yellow shrimp added to the scape. Moss growing slowly. Keeping the light intensity still low to avoid algae.

 
Jocelyn Adelman
  • #22
Love
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #23
Day 56
Added a small beach bigger wasn't possible. It gives more depth IMO.


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Natalya
  • #24
Oh that is an absolutely beautiful touch! I love it!
 
Jocelyn Adelman
  • #25
Love the beach!!! Agree that it changes the look!
 
Cricket lynn mclean
  • #26
Agree it gives depth but must admit it loses a bit of the mystery for me. Maybe I just need to get used to it tho.
 
NightShade
  • #27
Agree it gives depth but must admit it loses a bit of the mystery for me. Maybe I just need to get used to it tho.

I love it, still look fantastic, but you know what? It really actually does Cricket!!
 
Cricket lynn mclean
  • #28
I love it, still look fantastic, but you know what? It really actually does Cricket!!
I agree. It is still fantastic. And probably better lol. I adjust slowly to change.
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #29
New buce clump 'minI coin'. Got it very cheap only € 27 for 27 rhizomes (some very small). So only 1 euro per rhizome! If I buy it from stores here it is like 5 euro per rhizome. This was from a guy who imports straight from Indonesia. To reduce shipping costs he asks a lot of people and does 1 big order at a time. Had to wait a long time for it but all worth it. Hopefully they won't melt. Placed them in this tank and the 34 gal aswell.


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NightShade
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Wow! What a great deal!! The minI coin is beautiful!!! Love it!
 
Jocelyn Adelman
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Amazing deal! Nice going!
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #32
Again new fish from the store (boraras brigittae). The last time I bought 10, only 2 survived. Got 8 new from the store and after 7 hours of drip method tds matched with aquarium and container. When transferring already 2 fishes were dead?? Weak fish from the store?

Water parameters seems fine beside my GH is low around 5 and in store 10+.
 
Jocelyn Adelman
  • #33
So when the gH is that much lower you are going to lose a bunch... easier for fish to adapt to a higher gH then a lower one, the osmotic shock is pretty hard on them.... maybe buy some and keep in a qt with a higher gH, slowly lowering it over a few weeks vs a few hrs/days...

You can also try ordering some from a different online source that has parameters closer to yours...
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #34
Quick scape today, ADA 45P dimensions - Hardscape Forest



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Natalya
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Quick scape today, ADA 45P dimensions - Hardscape Forest


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Where do you get your wood? I need something like that, with roots, for the walls of my borneo swamp habitat
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #36
Where do you get your wood? I need something like that, with roots, for the walls of my borneo swamp habitat

Sounds good. I visit lots of LFS and snipe the right pieces. After that I need to saw and cut them. This is spiderwood / redmoor wood. I live in The Netherlands
 
Culprit
  • #37
Looks good! You have any smaller/shorter twigs for in the back? I think it might look a bit better with replacing one or two of those in the back
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #38
Looks good! You have any smaller/shorter twigs for in the back? I think it might look a bit better with replacing one or two of those in the back

Thanks for your feedback. I do have some smaller pieces. Problem in this tank is it is hard to go slowly from big to thin for the illusion of depth.

Feedback is always welcome guys I like to learn
 
Nigel95
  • Thread Starter
  • #39
Tried another store with more succes. Boraras brigittae are still a live and showing great colors already.

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Culprit
  • #40
Beautiful photo! How in the world did you get that? I think I'll still stick with green neons but mabye for the next build!
 

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