FishGirl38
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I've worked in the fish biz for about 3 years now in the fish room and at the register and in doing so, I've come across some odd, silly, and just downright "what were you thinking?!" pet retail situations that I have felt the need to share with the world for some time. In posting these stories, I do not intend to offend anyone who may be in these situations or have personally been in the same situations I'm going to describe. I understand this is a beginner forum, and we, myself included, all make mistakes. I also do not intend to identify anyone in these stories. Secondly, I wish to disclose that the situations I choose to share are bias to how I feel aquatic animals (and all animals) should be cared for; Some situations may not have been as bad as I felt they were. Lastly, I'm only three years in, and still have MUCH to learn. My projections of these situations are based on the information I currently know, and is therefore limited and may be subject to error.
Further disclaimer: I am an LFS associate, I am tasked with educating and recommending the necessary products for consumers looking to set up or maintain an aquarium. I do this to the best of my ability and I sincerely care about the health of our customers tanks. But I am also human, and I can only take so many unfortunate scenarios before I feel the need to post them for the world to see…
In no particular order what-so-ever, let the storytelling commence!
What Stocking Issues??:
A customer came into my checkout line and during the transaction, had asked to put 'teacup stingrays' (freshwater rays) on our request list. After doing so and talking with them, they eluded that they were intending to put the ray into a tank with established African cichlids. I mentioned the difference in natural water quality between the two species and that it may spell trouble in compatibility, and they said "I have a sand bottom though, and the water is the same any way you spin it"… It's not actually, but okay. They actually verbatum said "I have a sand bottom, and fish come from the same water anyway, rivers, oceans, lakes, it's all the same" or something to that effect, I was under the impression they didn't understand PH or salinity that well...Either way, rays with cichlids is a bad idea due to aggression, but...they come from different habitats altogether as well...
I'm trying to warn you...
A customer came into my checkout line and handed me a 5 Gallon glo-fish tank kit, and 2 bags of fish. 1 bag with 2 firemouth meeki, and another bag with 2 very young (pre-orange coloration) oscars. I said "Oh, I have one of these guys in my 75G" referring to the oscars as they handed them to me. Putting 2 and 2 together, I asked them if those 4 fish were going into the 5G kit, the customer said yes...so I asked them if they knew how big these fish are going to get, they said no. So I told them about 8-10in, hoping they would change their mind and choose another type of fish, but they seemed undeterred, shrugged, and said 'cool'...I typed the names of the fish in the comments section of their receipt...hoping they would see it and look the fish up online when they got home....It's likely the individual didn't say anything to the associate who caught his fish for them (the associate probably assumed the fish were going home to a cichlid tank) and/or, he probably shopped for the tank after having the fish bagged...None of our associates would knowingly let a customer put 4 large cichlids into a 5G...
Please stick with your mom, in freshwater:
A customer came up to me in our saltwater section, they looked considerably young (maybe 12ish) and asked me "How well would this jellyfish do in a small, like, nano aquarium?"...(I had heard a lot that day, and my reaction to them was...a mixture of shock, confusion, the thought crossed my mind that someone was playing a joke on me...)…I told her it wouldn’t work in a small aquarium...It just bothered me because I knew the child was there looking for a 'first fish' option, know's very little about fish, but is going to wonder into salt to ask me about Jellyfish??? Please, go look at the platies and livebearers for now, I can't even keep jellyfish, let alone the 12 year old newbie, and you want to put it in a bedside tank??? child...
We want a perfect tank, for super cheap, without listening to anything you say!
A couple came into the freshwater section and informed me that they had a brand new 30G tank (aquarium kit) and were looking to stock african cichlids. I immediately ran them through the nitrite cycle. As soon as I mentioned ammonia, the one customers eye’s glazed over. I saw it, but I kept going with my explanation, after explaining everything, that same customer says “but, all we need to add is the chemicals that came with the tank right?”…like, Yes…but no, just listen to me…Anyway, I STRESSED that they should only buy 1 fish (told them maybe two) AND BB + water conditioner. They were pretty persistent in buying more fish, and unfortunately, I'm not aloud to refuse sales. They asked "what if we buy 3, can we buy 3?" and I remember saying "you can, you really shouldn't (insert explanation about overstocking early and spike in ammonia), as it's very risky, but I can't tell you no, its your tank." Needless to say, they left with 4 fish (and came back the same day to replace one that had already passed, AND bought another when they replaced said dead one x.x.) So they had 5 cichlids in their 1 day old 30G tank and refused to purchase the other additives that I'd spent 45 minutes explaining to them was necessary (besides the point, each customer gets as much time as they need). Needless to say, they returned the next day with all 5 fish dead, but no receipt so there was nothing we could do for them in means of replacement. You know...my manager got on ME over that sale because after talking with the customers, they told my manager that they didn’t add water conditioner to the tank….When I explained what it was to them the day prior AND I explained what it did. (They told me the tank was running and that they'd added the water conditioner that came with the tank, so, I'm betting the ammonia spike is what went wrong anyway but regardless...). I got in minimal trouble for a failed sale that failed because of the customers ignorance….Just so frustrating. I handed them the bottle, handed it to them….it’s not my fault they didn’t buy it, refused to listen, and killed $50 worth of African cichlids..
Darla's tank.
I had a customer come into the freshwater section with her (maybe 2) yr old daughter and asked me where we keep our 'nemo' fish. I brought her to our saltwater section and showed her our percula clowns. They then say they don't have a saltwater tank, and are looking for the freshwater 'nemo' fish. I informed her there was no such thing, to which they replied "well, there has to be SOME freshwater fish in this store that looks similar to a 'nemo' fish, right?" We brought the child to every freshwater tank with orange/red/white fish (goldfish/livebearers) and each one the child cried about how the fish 'wasn't nemo'. Some parents are just ridiculous. The word is 'No'. and they'll have to learn it sooner or later..that fish just doesn't exist! and I can't give our saltwater fish a magic potion to turn them freshwater. just silly.
The last minute tank set up.
A customer came in about a half hour before we closed (If you're in before close time, we help you with a smile, but goodness I've been here 9 hours (some employees 11) and I'd LOVE to go home at a decent time after close). They had gone to the fair and were inspired to set up a goldfish tank for their children. The lady that was with them went to the front with a 5G tank kit to purchase it (I didn't even see her) and the man was in the fish room and asked me for 2 medium sized goldfish. He then asked me what size tank I would recommend, and I then explained my situation where I have 2 goldfish in a 45G that has gotten too small for them. He looked at me in disbelief a bit and asked me if a 5G tank was much to small for them at their current size. I told him it was, and that a 10G would be okay for now but that they'd definitely outgrow that in the near future (I was hoping he'd consider an even larger size... Bless his (and my manager's) heart. He calls his wife, who had already purchased the tank and was packing it into the car and tells her to bring it back into the store to exchange it. I then ran up to my manager and asked her to do an exchange (now 10+min after close), of course we did it, and all was well. (at least as far as I know, fingers crossed)
The easiest-to-take-care-of tank
A customer came in looking for a tank for their 3 year old. They asked for 'the smallest, easiest to take care of tank'. First I recommended a tank kit, but they weren't looking at spending more than 50$ on the set up. I asked if they wanted/had planned on adding a filter to the tank, they'd said no (filter or heater). I explained to them what happens in sitting water, and that a filter would be better just to keep the water moving, they purchased an air pump and a small under gravel filter. Of coarse they wanted to add fish right away as well, (which, in this kind of a system, I guess it doesn't matter much, as the tank usually isn't big enough to support a bio-colony large enough to sustain multiple fish for longer periods of time anyway, or the tank doesn't have a chance to cycle before the ammonia spikes too high and a w/c needs done after 3 days) anyway, I explained that the best option for them (out of the 200 tanks that we have to choose from) were the white cloud MM or possibly a male guppy or M/F betta fish. They asked about goldfish...for their 'easiest to care for', less than 1G, no filter having tank...But that’s the easy way….lol (the easy way, would’ve been a 10G set up with a filter for $60, but if they want to put a bowl of stagnant fish water in their 3yr olds room for $15, be my guest…x.x it’s all about what the customer wants…)
These are just some examples of the hardest-to-guide scenarios that I've had to work with as an LFS associate. I sincerely hope nobody takes offence to any of the scenario's presented, and I hope others can empathize with me. With this post, I kind-of wanted to highlight the misconceptions that're out there regarding fish. The biggest one that I deal with is that most people believe you can put a fish, in a bowl of water, and it'll survive just fine. Many people looking to set up aquariums Actually believe this...It's up to us as LFS associates to change those misconceptions, rather than perpetuate them. Having an aquarium is much like a chemistry lesson. If one isn't interested in understanding or learning Basic chemistry, than one should not have a fish tank....lol.
Further disclaimer: I am an LFS associate, I am tasked with educating and recommending the necessary products for consumers looking to set up or maintain an aquarium. I do this to the best of my ability and I sincerely care about the health of our customers tanks. But I am also human, and I can only take so many unfortunate scenarios before I feel the need to post them for the world to see…
In no particular order what-so-ever, let the storytelling commence!
What Stocking Issues??:
A customer came into my checkout line and during the transaction, had asked to put 'teacup stingrays' (freshwater rays) on our request list. After doing so and talking with them, they eluded that they were intending to put the ray into a tank with established African cichlids. I mentioned the difference in natural water quality between the two species and that it may spell trouble in compatibility, and they said "I have a sand bottom though, and the water is the same any way you spin it"… It's not actually, but okay. They actually verbatum said "I have a sand bottom, and fish come from the same water anyway, rivers, oceans, lakes, it's all the same" or something to that effect, I was under the impression they didn't understand PH or salinity that well...Either way, rays with cichlids is a bad idea due to aggression, but...they come from different habitats altogether as well...
I'm trying to warn you...
A customer came into my checkout line and handed me a 5 Gallon glo-fish tank kit, and 2 bags of fish. 1 bag with 2 firemouth meeki, and another bag with 2 very young (pre-orange coloration) oscars. I said "Oh, I have one of these guys in my 75G" referring to the oscars as they handed them to me. Putting 2 and 2 together, I asked them if those 4 fish were going into the 5G kit, the customer said yes...so I asked them if they knew how big these fish are going to get, they said no. So I told them about 8-10in, hoping they would change their mind and choose another type of fish, but they seemed undeterred, shrugged, and said 'cool'...I typed the names of the fish in the comments section of their receipt...hoping they would see it and look the fish up online when they got home....It's likely the individual didn't say anything to the associate who caught his fish for them (the associate probably assumed the fish were going home to a cichlid tank) and/or, he probably shopped for the tank after having the fish bagged...None of our associates would knowingly let a customer put 4 large cichlids into a 5G...
Please stick with your mom, in freshwater:
A customer came up to me in our saltwater section, they looked considerably young (maybe 12ish) and asked me "How well would this jellyfish do in a small, like, nano aquarium?"...(I had heard a lot that day, and my reaction to them was...a mixture of shock, confusion, the thought crossed my mind that someone was playing a joke on me...)…I told her it wouldn’t work in a small aquarium...It just bothered me because I knew the child was there looking for a 'first fish' option, know's very little about fish, but is going to wonder into salt to ask me about Jellyfish??? Please, go look at the platies and livebearers for now, I can't even keep jellyfish, let alone the 12 year old newbie, and you want to put it in a bedside tank??? child...
We want a perfect tank, for super cheap, without listening to anything you say!
A couple came into the freshwater section and informed me that they had a brand new 30G tank (aquarium kit) and were looking to stock african cichlids. I immediately ran them through the nitrite cycle. As soon as I mentioned ammonia, the one customers eye’s glazed over. I saw it, but I kept going with my explanation, after explaining everything, that same customer says “but, all we need to add is the chemicals that came with the tank right?”…like, Yes…but no, just listen to me…Anyway, I STRESSED that they should only buy 1 fish (told them maybe two) AND BB + water conditioner. They were pretty persistent in buying more fish, and unfortunately, I'm not aloud to refuse sales. They asked "what if we buy 3, can we buy 3?" and I remember saying "you can, you really shouldn't (insert explanation about overstocking early and spike in ammonia), as it's very risky, but I can't tell you no, its your tank." Needless to say, they left with 4 fish (and came back the same day to replace one that had already passed, AND bought another when they replaced said dead one x.x.) So they had 5 cichlids in their 1 day old 30G tank and refused to purchase the other additives that I'd spent 45 minutes explaining to them was necessary (besides the point, each customer gets as much time as they need). Needless to say, they returned the next day with all 5 fish dead, but no receipt so there was nothing we could do for them in means of replacement. You know...my manager got on ME over that sale because after talking with the customers, they told my manager that they didn’t add water conditioner to the tank….When I explained what it was to them the day prior AND I explained what it did. (They told me the tank was running and that they'd added the water conditioner that came with the tank, so, I'm betting the ammonia spike is what went wrong anyway but regardless...). I got in minimal trouble for a failed sale that failed because of the customers ignorance….Just so frustrating. I handed them the bottle, handed it to them….it’s not my fault they didn’t buy it, refused to listen, and killed $50 worth of African cichlids..
Darla's tank.
I had a customer come into the freshwater section with her (maybe 2) yr old daughter and asked me where we keep our 'nemo' fish. I brought her to our saltwater section and showed her our percula clowns. They then say they don't have a saltwater tank, and are looking for the freshwater 'nemo' fish. I informed her there was no such thing, to which they replied "well, there has to be SOME freshwater fish in this store that looks similar to a 'nemo' fish, right?" We brought the child to every freshwater tank with orange/red/white fish (goldfish/livebearers) and each one the child cried about how the fish 'wasn't nemo'. Some parents are just ridiculous. The word is 'No'. and they'll have to learn it sooner or later..that fish just doesn't exist! and I can't give our saltwater fish a magic potion to turn them freshwater. just silly.
The last minute tank set up.
A customer came in about a half hour before we closed (If you're in before close time, we help you with a smile, but goodness I've been here 9 hours (some employees 11) and I'd LOVE to go home at a decent time after close). They had gone to the fair and were inspired to set up a goldfish tank for their children. The lady that was with them went to the front with a 5G tank kit to purchase it (I didn't even see her) and the man was in the fish room and asked me for 2 medium sized goldfish. He then asked me what size tank I would recommend, and I then explained my situation where I have 2 goldfish in a 45G that has gotten too small for them. He looked at me in disbelief a bit and asked me if a 5G tank was much to small for them at their current size. I told him it was, and that a 10G would be okay for now but that they'd definitely outgrow that in the near future (I was hoping he'd consider an even larger size... Bless his (and my manager's) heart. He calls his wife, who had already purchased the tank and was packing it into the car and tells her to bring it back into the store to exchange it. I then ran up to my manager and asked her to do an exchange (now 10+min after close), of course we did it, and all was well. (at least as far as I know, fingers crossed)
The easiest-to-take-care-of tank
A customer came in looking for a tank for their 3 year old. They asked for 'the smallest, easiest to take care of tank'. First I recommended a tank kit, but they weren't looking at spending more than 50$ on the set up. I asked if they wanted/had planned on adding a filter to the tank, they'd said no (filter or heater). I explained to them what happens in sitting water, and that a filter would be better just to keep the water moving, they purchased an air pump and a small under gravel filter. Of coarse they wanted to add fish right away as well, (which, in this kind of a system, I guess it doesn't matter much, as the tank usually isn't big enough to support a bio-colony large enough to sustain multiple fish for longer periods of time anyway, or the tank doesn't have a chance to cycle before the ammonia spikes too high and a w/c needs done after 3 days) anyway, I explained that the best option for them (out of the 200 tanks that we have to choose from) were the white cloud MM or possibly a male guppy or M/F betta fish. They asked about goldfish...for their 'easiest to care for', less than 1G, no filter having tank...But that’s the easy way….lol (the easy way, would’ve been a 10G set up with a filter for $60, but if they want to put a bowl of stagnant fish water in their 3yr olds room for $15, be my guest…x.x it’s all about what the customer wants…)
These are just some examples of the hardest-to-guide scenarios that I've had to work with as an LFS associate. I sincerely hope nobody takes offence to any of the scenario's presented, and I hope others can empathize with me. With this post, I kind-of wanted to highlight the misconceptions that're out there regarding fish. The biggest one that I deal with is that most people believe you can put a fish, in a bowl of water, and it'll survive just fine. Many people looking to set up aquariums Actually believe this...It's up to us as LFS associates to change those misconceptions, rather than perpetuate them. Having an aquarium is much like a chemistry lesson. If one isn't interested in understanding or learning Basic chemistry, than one should not have a fish tank....lol.