60 gallon stocking

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Finally started a thread in the appropriate sub-forum. :)

Planning on getting a 60 gal tank on Black Friday. Having fun messing around with different stocking options. For the record, I tend to like my tanks slightly overstocked. Right now I'm looking at:

3 platy (trio)
6 kuhli loach
1 pearl gourami
8 emperor tetra
8 harlequin rasbora
8 glowlight tetra
2 cockatoo apisto (pair)

I'm trying to decide if I really want 3 types of tetras/rasboras or if I want to narrow it to 2 (probably emporer and harlequin) and up the numbers. Also have considered cories and neon dwarf rainbows. Not a fan of plecos. Considered a female betta but chose the gourami instead. Would honey gouramis be a more fun option? My hubby knows nothing about fish but has been very supportive of me getting this tank, so I've been asking his opinion. He likes the emperor tetras and wants fish with personality (cichlids, etc). So the more personality and fun we can pack into the tank (while still being pretty and cohesive), the better.

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I think the stocking is fine.

If anything, I'd suggest having at least a trio of pearls (1M/2F) for them to display and socialise with eachother. Probably also be a little more visually interesting for you.


As for the platies, stick with one sex unless you want a lot of fry (eg, fish shop accept unwanted fry that will ultimately arise. Females are often pregnant in the store (they store sperm), so I'd reccomend getting males)


You'll find that adding some variation in the rasbora/tetra schools can be useful in making it appear a lot more natural. (Eg, have around 10-12 of one, 8ish of another and then 6ish of another...) another good idea that many aquascapers do is to have odd number of schools (even numbers can subconsciously appear forced).


Kuhli numbers could also be increased. They have a very low bioload, and could easily double the amount without issues.



(Of course, good filtration and meticulous waterchanges are a must!)
 
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Thanks! For the platies...most usually get eaten so not terribly worried about that.

I will definitely look into a gourami trio...just dont want them to fight. Also will definitely look into the tetra school ideas...I think that is a super cool idea!!

Could I add a few cories as well? I know 6+ is preferable.

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So, I actually had to drive the 4 hours to the city for something else but ended up getting a 3 foot Aqueon 65 gallon tank. It was on sale and I liked it better than the 4 foot tank. I've heard of these tanks leaking...is there some extra siliconing we should do on the bottom before filling?
 
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JettsPapa said:
Unless you really want loaches you might want to consider corys instead.
Why? I've had yoyo loaches in the past, and of course plenty of corys...had never tried kuhlis though so that's why they made the list. I'm not set on them though as I enjoy corys too.
 

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Dart said:
Why? I've had yoyo loaches in the past, and of course plenty of corys...had never tried kuhlis though so that's why they made the list. I'm not set on them though as I enjoy corys too.
I probably should have worded that different. I just meant corys would be an option.
 
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JettsPapa said:
I probably should have worded that different. I just meant corys would be an option.
Ah, yes they are! I love cories, and they are definitely a consideration for this tank :)
 

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Dart said:
So, I actually had to drive the 4 hours to the city for something else but ended up getting a 3 foot Aqueon 65 gallon tank. It was on sale and I liked it better than the 4 foot tank. I've heard of these tanks leaking...is there some extra siliconing we should do on the bottom before filling?
If its new, no. However if its a second hand aquarium, it may be in your best interests. To reseal an old aquarium, the olld silicone has to be completely removed since silcone doesn't bond well to silicone.




As for the new tank dimensions, much of your stocking is fine. I'd only suggest now sticking with two schools of mid water fish, since its slightly smaller (length wise).


And as for adding cories, its very much a touchy subject. I think you could, especially if you add one of the smaller species (habrosus come to mind, panda could also work as well)
 
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aussieJJDude said:
If its new, no. However if its a second hand aquarium, it may be in your best interests. To reseal an old aquarium, the olld silicone has to be completely removed since silcone doesn't bond well to silicone.




As for the new tank dimensions, much of your stocking is fine. I'd only suggest now sticking with two schools of mid water fish, since its slightly smaller (length wise).


And as for adding cories, its very much a touchy subject. I think you could, especially if you add one of the smaller species (habrosus come to mind, panda could also work as well)
Nope, brand new. But after reading reviews, many people have had leaks from the bottom of the tank, so I was trying to be proactive. Looks like I'll just have to wait and see tho.

Why is adding cories a touchy subject?
 

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Dart said:
Nope, brand new. But after reading reviews, many people have had leaks from the bottom of the tank, so I was trying to be proactive. Looks like I'll just have to wait and see tho.

Why is adding cories a touchy subject?
In tanks around 55-75g in size, people tend to have widely varying thoughts on whether cories and loaches work together. Some argue that there's too many fish species at the bottom (at least 6 in each school ect, so you're looking a min around the 10-15 mark) and they are in direct competition. Others, say its fine.


They both social fish, and make great community fish. Its just more of an issue for people that worry about direct competition between the two.

I honestly think a small group of cories can work.
 
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Ok, so I've been looking around...and came across peacock gudgeons. I know many people have a hard time getting them to eat, especially in a big tank. Should I not bother? Also, would they be able to co-exist with the apistos? Obviously with this being another bottom dweller, I would remove something else, but wanted to ask people's opinions on personal experiences with the gudgeons. Thanks!
 
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