60 Gallon Stocking!

Discussion in 'Aquarium Stocking Questions' started by FallenOwl, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    I plan to get a 40 or a 60 gallon bow front tank (maybe bigger!) and I wanted to know him many of each, and if these fish are compatible.
    Here's the fish that I want.
    Electric blue Acara
    Kuhli loach
    Gold barb
    Mollies / Swordtails
    Hatchetfish
    Ghost catfish
    Twig catfish or BN pleco
    Ghost shrimp
    Amano shrimp
    Cherry shrimp (if they won't be eaten)
    Bamboo shrimp
    Nerite snails
    Mystery snails

    I would like to keep as many as possible (all of possible )
     
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  2. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    The EBA will limit your stock. I don't think ghost cats, hatchetfish, or kuhlis are going to do well with the EBA. Even if it doesn't harass or try to eat them, they are too timid to be comfortable with such a large fish. And shrimp will be eaten.

    If you leave out the EBA, you could include more of the other fish. But I think the EBA is worth the sacrifice :D If it was me, I'd do something like:

    1 electric blue acara (or you could do a mated pair)
    8 gold barbs
    3 swordtails (1M/2F, barbs and EBA will eat fry) OR 1 male swordtail and 1 male molly (if you're really worried about fry)
    1 BN pleco
    nerite snails

    Of course, I'm biased, because with the exception of the pleco, those are all in my stocking plan (just waiting on my EBA for my tank to be finished!) But I think you would really enjoy that tank :D I know I love mine!
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    That's all!??
    Ok, well..
    Maybe drop the Acara and instead have
    1 male DG
    2 female Pearl gouramis
    (I already have them in a separate tank, all adults that get along perfectly)
    Then could I have more of the fish that I wanted?
     




  4. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    I wouldn't mix two types of gouramis in a tank...

    My numbers are pretty conservative, but I'm learning I like a tank that way--more opportunity for fish to show their natural behaviors. IME, unique behavior starts to muddy when you start adding all different kinds of fish to a tank. You could up your numbers or add more fish if you wanted to, I just wouldn't do the skittish fish mentioned above, and not shrimp. You could add a second school of something like Odessa barbs, praecox rainbows, serpae tetras, or similar-sized fish. Probably a gourami as well, if you wanted to.

    There's also a big difference between a 40 and a 60g tank! Can you give dimensions for those tanks?
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    I don't know which I can get yet!
    I'm hoping for a 60 gallon bow front or larger, but I'm not getting one any smaller than a 40..
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Ok, new plan to make this simple. Let's just say I'm getting a 60g bowfront.
    If I DO end up getting a 40g I'll just bump the numbers down
    So, this is what I already have (they don't have to be moved to this tank, but I would like some of them to be.)
    5x Harlequin rasbora (getting more)
    6x Kuhli loach
    1x Male DG
    2x Female Pearl gourami

    So, going off of my previous list.. What are my stocking options for a 60g tank?
     
  7. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    What are the dimensions? I'm not familiar with that size.

    I'd think you could have a very peaceful tank with something like this:
    3x pearl gouramis (1M/2F)
    8x hatchetfish
    8x harlequin rasboras
    8x ghost catfish
    1 BN pleco
    Amano shrimp
    Snails
    Possibly a bamboo shrimp, although they might get picked on by the gouramis

    I believe twig catfish need more flow than the ghosts would like. Someone more experienced may know more about that though.

    The biggest issue I see here is that you've been looking for fish with personality, and many of the options you've listed are skittish and not going to appreciate the size or activity level of many of the "personality" fish.

    An alternate stocking with the larger/more active fish could be:
    1x electric blue acara
    1 BN pleco
    8x gold barbs
    8-10x harlequin rasboras or Odessa barbs
    3-5 live-bearers (swordtails and/or mollies; either all males, or 2-3 females per male of same species)
    Snails

    Possibly a dwarf cichlid in there as well, depending on the tank dimensions.
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Again, I don't have the tank.. So I don't know dimensions.. Maybe it's not quite a 60g, or maybe it's a little more.
    I like having two options (1 with skittish/peaceful fish, 1 "personality tank")
    I also like both of those stocking options, but I'm not stuck on anything yet!
    Also, where would I get some of these fish (gold barbs, EBAs)

    Another question @vikingkirken - since I like those two options, could the "peaceful option" be in a 20g long (substituting the pearls with my dwarf)?
    And what would the minimum tank size be for the other option "personality"?
     
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  9. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    My apologies. You mentioned a 60 bowfront so I thought you might have something specific in mind, and I haven't seen one that size before.

    EBAs and gold barbs are both pretty easy to find; most LFS should have them.

    I'd leave one of the schools out in the 20g.

    I think a 40 breeder would work for the other tank, possibly a 45 tall. You might want to reduce your numbers a little bit.
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Ok, thank you
     
  11. BottomDweller

    BottomDweller Fishlore VIP Member

    For a 60 gallon with some of the fish on your first list I would do
    12 Kuhli loaches
    10 Gold barbs
    1-3 Mollies
    1-3 Swordtails
    10 Hatchetfish
    1 BN pleco
    10-20 Amano shrimp
    1 Bamboo shrimp
    6Nerite snails
    3 Mystery snails

    With the shrimp watch to make sure they don't get picked on.
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    I noticed that this stock doesn't have any "bottom dwellers" could I add some to this?
    What level does the Acara swim at?
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Ok, so I was looking around and thought about something.

    In the bigger tank (40g breeder or 40+g bowfront) I want my main focus to be the EBA, so I was thinking about getting "duller" fish.
    Here's some examples:
    Scissor tail rasbora
    Silver tip tetra
    Long finned gold Danio
    Giant Danio
    Lamp eye tetra
    Black neon tetra
    Emerald Cory
    Albino Cory
    Eclipse catfish
    Pictus catfish
    Black and white livebearers
    True Siamese algae eater
    Albino BN pleco
    Snails
    ( the substrate will be black sand )
    ?Planted?

    In the smaller tank (20-25g long) I want the colors to "pop" on my DG (orange and blue), so I was thinking:
    Ghost catfish (I've always wanted some )
    Orange or blue shrimp (opinions?)
    Ember tetras
    Harlequin rasbora
    Amano shrimp
    ?algae eater?
    Hatchet fish
    Striped Kuhli loaches
    Snails
    (What color sand?)
    Planted.
     
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  14. BottomDweller

    BottomDweller Fishlore VIP Member

    In the 20-25 I would do this along with the DG
    10-20 orange or blue neocardinia shrimp (personally I like blue velvet shrimp)
    5-7 Amano shrimp
    8 gold barbs or 8-10 harlequin rasboras
    8-10 Kuhli loaches
    2 Mystery snails
    3 Nerite snails (algae eaters)
    I think black sand would look good.
     
  15. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    The acara is a bottom dweller, and the barbs spend a lot of time picking through the substrate looking for scraps of food and such. I'd think you could also add something like a BN pleco if you wanted to.

    I would not do small shrimp with gold barbs; I think they would be eaten.
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    I thought about it for an hour
    Could I do this?
    40g breeder or 40g+ bowfront
    1x Electric blue Acara
    10x Scissor tail rasbora
    10x Long finned leopard Danio (maybe?)
    10x Albino Cory
    5x Male Molly (3) swordtail (2)
    1x long finned albino BN pleco
    6x mystery snail

    20g long +
    3x Dwarf gourami (1m,2f)
    10x Ghost catfish or 15-20x ember tetra
    8x Hatchetfish
    12x Kuhli loach (6 striped, 6 black)
    1x Clown pleco
    5x Amano shrimp
    15x Sunkist shrimp or (blue velvet & blue pearl shrimp)
    1x Mystery snail
    3x Rabbit snail
     
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  17. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    Scissortail rasbora need a longer/larger tank, they can get 6" long. I think the danios would be eaten.

    Do you have a source for female dwarf gouramis? They're apparently hard to find. I don't know how much space you would need for a group of them :-/ The remaining stock seems reasonable.
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Could I do giant danios and lamp eye tetras instead? (Same numbers)
    I think I have somewhere to get the female DGs, but even if I don't, I don't have to get them. It was just a preference
     
  19. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    I think those could work! But I'd drop your numbers a bit, or drop a school. But I seem to be a somewhat conservative stocker numbers-wise. Perhaps @Anders247 can give some clearer numbers here.
     
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    FallenOwl

    FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Can they both be planted, or will the Acara dig up the plants?
     




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