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Hi, I have 55 gallon tank with a senegal bichir and one jack dempsey. they are both under 2 inches. I was wondering if I could put 2 of my 3 inch bolivian rams in with them. Right now the two are in a 20 gallon tank and they constantly bother each other. Their only other tank mates are 4 guppies that I had just purchased today. One of the rams even tried to nip at a guppy.
 

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Not a good idea. The Bolivians would get smashed by the JD & the Bichir once they get a little bigger.
 
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Well I don't know what to do with them then. I guess I am going to have to give them away or try to sell them. They cost me 8 dollars a piece so its a shame if I can't get something in return for them.
 

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Why do you need to remove the Rams? They will be ok with the Guppys. It's no surprise that they had a nip at the newbies in the tank. That's just them establishing their territory to the other fish. The Guppys will stay mostly up the top & the Rams mostly down the bottom. I would leave the pair of Rams in your 20gal with the four Guppies & call it perfectly stocked.
 
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The rams nip at each other all the time. They constantly bother each other and I don't want them to hurt each other or other tank mates.
 

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Are you sure they are a pair & not 2 males? That sound like the sort of behaviour I would expect from two males. Even a male & female that don't pair up will get along ok usually. It could also be that the male want to breed but the female isn't ready yet if they are a definite pair.
 
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They are both males. I'm also trying to breed guppies in the 20 gal. I really don't want the rams to bother the guppies when they are breeding.
 

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Zc668 said:
They are both males.
That's your problem then. Two males are not going to play nice with each other. You could take one of the males to your LFS & swap it for a female but if you want to breed the Guppys you will need to get a breeding net/trap that you can put the females into when you expect them to have babies. Your going to need a second tank for raising the fry anyway as the Guppys will eat their own young if you leave them in the tank, not just the Rams. You could provide a large clump of Java Moss for the fry to hide in so that some of them will survive but you will still lose the bulk of them to predation.
 

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Nutter said:
That's your problem then. Two males are not going to play nice with each other. You could take one of the males to your LFS & swap it for a female but if you want to breed the Guppys you will need to get a breeding net/trap that you can put the females into when you expect them to have babies. Your going to need a second tank for raising the fry anyway as the Guppys will eat their own young if you leave them in the tank, not just the Rams. You could provide a large clump of Java Moss for the fry to hide in so that some of them will survive but you will still lose the bulk of them to predation.
+1. I've had Bolivian rams of the same sex (unknowingly) in a 29 gallon before and the dominant fish was relentless. I ended up having to remove the less dominant fish. I also agree that rams of any kind cannot live with a JD long term. IMO your best option is to return one of the rams. Hopefully you will at least get a little store credit.
 
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I already set up everything I need for the guppy breeding. I'm going to call the the pet store to see if I can swap them or get store credit. My guppies that I breed are going to be food for my bichir and JD once they get a bit bigger.
 

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