54 Gallon Corner Tank Build (Discus)

Hey NC sorry to hear about the red . I think you need something more to break the line of sight. Maybe some driftwood would help. Did I send you the giant hygro plant? That grows to the top and is bushy enough to give a place to hide. As to the cyano I had it in a tank with ecocompleat and I vacuumed it up on a regural basis. Also used the api co2 booster to finally get rid of it.
Discus look great!

Thanks! It is not fun to lose a fish like that.
Yeah I will need a bit more things, but I think the plant is a bit of an improvement. I don't think you sent me the giant hygro, I did have that one plant but it got completely covered and I couldn't do anything. But don't feel you have to send me anything anymore, haha don't want you to spend anymore on shipping and stuff. But thank you for the old plants! Also, thanks for the duckweed I think it is fine in this tank as I can easily get rid of it because of the shape. I will check out a few plants and cure some wood. I will try to maybe use some of this stuff to get rid of it, also I will try and put a UV protector on the window.

 

Thank you 86 ssinit again.

Ok so here are some pieces that were found in a river. They have been sitting out for at least a month, opinions? I just don’t know how to cure it. FinalFins I assume you know how to?

 

Thank you 86 ssinit again.

Ok so here are some pieces that were found in a river. They have been sitting out for at least a month, opinions? I just don’t know how to cure it. FinalFins I assume you know how to?
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As long as it doesn't give off any pine/coniferous tree smell and seems to be good shape, I like to just give it a soak for a couple days in a bucket with hot water. Or you can just rinse and plop it in.

 

As long as it doesn't give off any pine/coniferous tree smell and seems to be good shape, I like to just give it a soak for a couple days in a bucket with hot water. Or you can just rinse and plop it in.

Thanks I’ll do that!

 

Yeah I wouldn’t use anything out of a river. It’s old wood and who knows what’s soaked into it. Gas,oil,algae some old nuclear waste. I’ll do rocks but wood I buy. Many do use wood and for the best answers you may want to start a thread about it.

 

Ok thanks! I’ll get some stones tomorrow from a creek nearby me. I’ll make sure they aren’t calcium based and stuff.

 

No I was just saying I’d use a rock before wood. But for your tank I wouldn’t add anything from outside. A rock really isn’t going to do anything and if it has sharp edges the discus could dart into it and cut themselves. I have a few tanks not just the discus tank. Anything I want to add to the discus tank goes into one of the other tanks for a few months first. This way I know it’s clean and there’s nothing to bother the discus. I use store bought driftwood. For breaking the line of site this is what I did in my qt tank.
By the time one get around a piece of wood the chaser has lost interest.

 

Not mine. Relentless. I tried with driftwood and plants as mentioned. The Beta would hide in the plants on the other side of the 4ft tank, but the Alpha would search the tank for him. Then peck, tail slap, just bully him, had to separate. Ugh!
Good Luck!

 

Guys, look out for a special post here in a few days.
You will know when you see it .

 

Do you think I should just do a blackout for a few days to deal with the cyano?

 

Do you think I should just do a blackout for a few days to deal with the cyano?

I tried blackouts before, and for it to be really effective you need to blackout with literally no light entering and even so it still comes back after a while.

Manual removal+chemical treatments/lots of WC usually does it..

 

I tried blackouts before, and for it to be really effective you need to blackout with literally no light entering and even so it still comes back after a while.

Manual removal+chemical treatments/lots of WC usually does it..

Ok, I guess I will get some chemi clean. I just need to get the carbon out of the filter, I don't think a lot of water changes will be an issue since I really do them every other day.

This stuff?
https://www.amazon.com/Boyd-Enterprises-CC02-Chemi-Clean-2/dp/B00025YRJS

Ok, got it and some new carbon.
I’ll have to turn on my UV and remove my carbon, I’ll update you guys everyday on it.
Should be getting here tomorrow.

 

Yea that stuff. It only takes a little and it was extremely effective very fast - i think around 3 days. As i noted in both tanks (one untreated) it has gone away and not come back. In the treated tank it took around 3 days - in the untreated tank it just sort of left after a month or two - but in that tank it was localized. The substrate would bubble (speculation is nitrogen) and that is where the cyano grew.

Ok, I guess I will get some chemi clean. I just need to get the carbon out of the filter, I don't think a lot of water changes will be an issue since I really do them every other day.

This stuff?
https://www.amazon.com/Boyd-Enterprises-CC02-Chemi-Clean-2/dp/B00025YRJS

Ok, got it and some new carbon.
I’ll have to turn on my UV and remove my carbon, I’ll update you guys everyday on it.
Should be getting here tomorrow.

 

I have so many ideas for this tank...
This will be fun once this cyano is gone.

 

Really sorry about your red NC122606 These things are so majestic that losing one really sucks.

As for Cyno, my whole build was in part dedicated to removing it naturally. Starve it of Phos and/or Nitrate and that will knock it out completely.

 

How did you starve it of nitrate ? I had it grow in a tank that was consistently under 2ppm nitrate.

Really sorry about your red NC122606 These things are so majestic that losing one really sucks.

As for Cyno, my whole build was in part dedicated to removing it naturally. Starve it of Phos and/or Nitrate and that will knock it out completely.

 

Quick question. Should I feed them or completely blackout the tank and see what happens for the next few days when I get the stuff?

 

Feed who - the fishes - sure. I didn't do anything special. I just followed direction on the package and put it in the tank opposite side. Didn't seem to bother the fishes. At the time i had a pair of rams and some kuhli in the tank. The rams took one sniff of it; decided it wasn't a toy or food and went and laid some eggs.

 

How did you starve it of nitrate ? I had it grow in a tank that was consistently under 2ppm nitrate.

I used plants to soak up any excess phos and nitrate. Without those it can't survive in my experience.

 

 

Should I use the filter pad that the carbon was on?

 

I don’t use carbon. If the pad is cleanable yeah you can reuse it.
Been busy will try and get the plants out tomorrow.

 

I don’t use carbon. If the pad is cleanable yeah you can reuse it.
Been busy will try and get the plants out tomorrow.

Thanks! I’ll just use the pad, it’s not like the whole pad is a carbon pad. So if the dosage is 1 cup per 10 gallons should I do 5 and a half? Because the tank is 54, so 5 and a half?

 

Ended up doing 5.
Start of treatment:


Sorry tank is cloudy because of gunk that spit back out.

 

5 is more than enough because you don't have 50 gallons in the tank. Anyway one treatment is ample don't treat again for at least a week - however do add some airstone. Per instruction it reduces oxygen in the water and the warm water required by discus make it worse. I used 3 airstone in my 29.... Also pay attention to the requirements around water changes.

 

5 is more than enough because you don't have 50 gallons in the tank. Anyway one treatment is ample don't treat again for at least a week - however do add some airstone. Per instruction it reduces oxygen in the water and the warm water required by discus make it worse. I used 3 airstone in my 29.... Also pay attention to the requirements around water changes.

Ok thanks, I am using an "airstone" if you want to call it that, really just the tubing on max flow (I wanted to use a smaller sponge filter but it wasn't as good as normal tubing). It seems to be providing a lot of flow from what I see. Filter is creating some pretty good flow as well.

 

Ok 24 hours in, what do you think?

 

Here is comparison.
Before


After

 

Seems to be leaving. It takes 3ish day for all of it to vanish.

 

Seems to be leaving. It takes 3ish day for all of it to vanish.

Thanks. Do you think I should do a water change on the 2nd day or the 3rd day (Is four too much?)? It says 2nd but I don’t see it going totally on the 2nd day.

 

I would follow the instructions.

Thanks. Do you think I should do a water change on the 2nd day or the 3rd day (Is four too much?)? It says 2nd but I don’t see it going totally on the 2nd day.

 

- About to do a 20% water change and then turn on my UVs. I can easily switch them on and off unlike the carbon so I’ll put the carbon back in once I’m done treating entirely.

- Thinking about putting German Ram into the discus tank since it has been in there for 3 weeks already, pushing four. But I’ll wait a few more but I honestly think it is fine.

- I might just skip bottom dwellers and do more tetras instead, suggestions?

 

48 hours later. Still on this plant a lot.

 

Comparison:

Start:



24 Hours Later:



48 Hours Later:

 

I vote more tetras.

The cyano looks to be dying down, you can also hand remove them if you want to speed up the process.

 

I vote more tetras.

The cyano looks to be dying down, you can also hand remove them if you want to speed up the process.

Thanks! I’ll do the water change and try to get a little out, put the plant has a lot. So no need to repeat?

 

Thanks! I’ll do the water change and try to get a little out, put the plant has a lot. So no need to repeat?

I haven't used chemiclean but if the majority of it disappears I think no repeat would be needed?

 

Thanks! I’ll do the water change and try to get a little out, put the plant has a lot. So no need to repeat?

I haven't used chemiclean but if the majority of it disappears I think no repeat would be needed?

 

You need more patience. After it kills the stuff it takes a few days for it to dissipate. I'd just follow the instructions and wait a full 7 days before mucking with it.

 

You need more patience. After it kills the stuff it takes a few days for it to dissipate. I'd just follow the instructions and wait a full 7 days before mucking with it.

Haha, sorry. I left the plant in and I’ll wait it out. Water change is done though and UVs are back in.