5 gallon

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by dezdude, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. dezdudeValued MemberMember

    What fish can go in a 5 gallon? my girlfriend wants a fancy goldfish.
  2. harpua2002Fishlore VIPMember

    I hate to give you bad news, but there is no variety of goldfish that is suitable for a 5 gallon.

    Does your girlfriend like Bettas at all? They do great in a 5 gallon tank, and there are a TON of beautiful colors and fin varieties available. Bettas have a ton of personality and IME, never disappoint! :)

  3. JayseeFishlore LegendMember

  4. peacemaker92Well Known MemberMember

    Bettas do great in a 5 gallon. You could have some Red Cherry Shrimps with him too and decorate it nicely and viola! You have a nice home for a betta :)

    Best of luck! :;hf

  5. NutterFishlore VIPMember

    Another vote for Betta or Dwarf Puffer. Not so sure about RCS with a Betta though. We put a Betta in a 10gal with RCS & he sent them all into hiding. We actually thought he had eaten them all until he got moved to a different tank & all the RCS started coming back out of hiding. Depends on the Betta in question I guess. Can't hurt to try it. At worst the Betta gets a good feed. :)
  6. ryanrModeratorModerator Member

    +1 for the Betta.

    Important question: Are you planning on heating the tank?

    Other alternatives, possibly, [only 1 of the following lines, not all of them]
    1 x Dwarf Gourami (might eat RCS),
    3-5 x Sparkling Gourami (aka Pygmy Gourami) [but are a little sensitive to water parameters]
    1 x Apistogramma borellii (Umbrella Cichlid) [may eat RCS]

    My 2c.
  7. harpua2002Fishlore VIPMember

    I don't mean to be a spoilsport, but....
    DG needs a minimum of 10 gallons IMO.
    Apistos need a minimum of 20 gallons IMO.

    Sparkling gourami trio is great for a 5 gallon IME. BUT- at that point, you are fully stocked. If your sparklers decide to breed, you may need another option for the odd one out. ;)
  8. ryanrModeratorModerator Member

    Hey harpua [btw, love the garage, I mean fish room :) ]

    From all my research, the borelli is probably the smallest of the apisto's, at ~2 inchs, not much bigger than most tetras, which I'm sure would be fine in a 5G.

    Is there a particular reason you're suggesting 20G minimum, I understand the territorial side of things, but if there was only 1 in a 5G that would negate the territory issues?

    I also understand swimspace etc, just curious to hear your thoughts cos I know you're quite experienced. [well that and I've asked my LFS to source some borelli for my 16G]

    Looking forward to your thoughts :D
  9. harpua2002Fishlore VIPMember

    I went to an auction in March and tried to get my hands on a borelli pair... the female was about 2 inches (excluding tail) and the male was absolutely enormous... 4 inches, EASY. I couldn't believe it. I didn't win the pair, but wow...

    IMO no apisto belongs in a 5 gallon because, territory or not, they just need more room to swim. Well, I take that back. A 5 gallon makes a good growout tank for apisto fry. :p
  10. peacemaker92Well Known MemberMember

    I've had RCS with a betta before. No problems. Yeah, as you said, depends really on the betta. :)
  11. JayseeFishlore LegendMember

    I went through a few dwarf crayfish before i realized the betta was eating them. problem was i didnt have tight enough cover for them, so the betta could get to them and eat them at the molt. now i have a small little house that the crayfish lives in, that the betta cant get into.

    it really depends on the betta....
  12. ryanrModeratorModerator Member

    Thanks harp!
    I knew you'd have a logical answer ;)
  13. Craig-DValued MemberMember

    In addition to the above suggestions, you can put a couple of cory catfish in a 5 gallon, as they mostly stick to the bottom and don't need a whole lot of open swin space. However, they ideally prefer to be kept in groups of at least 6 if you want to see them be active.

    If you want a very pretty single fish with a lot of personality, I say go for a betta. A goldfish is out for sure. They are really messy and need at least 10 gallons each.
  14. ElodeaWell Known MemberMember

    Actually, I politely disagree with Craig-D about the cories. IMO, no cories should go in a 5 gallon - as far as I know, 10 gallons is the minimum for a shoal of pygmy cories, and a 15 or 20 is best for regular cories. Pygmies get to about 1" - 1 1/2" long, and regular cories may look cute and little at the pet store, but will eventually grow to 2 or 3 inches.

    Good info on the goldies there, but I would say that 1 goldfish should have 20 gallons (swim space again), and any additional goldfish will add another 10 gallons. For example, a tank with three goldfish should by 40 gallons (20 + 10 + 10).
  15. midthoughtWell Known MemberMember

    Just to add to Elodea's comment: pygmy cories will be happier in cooler waters than a betta would be. And I wouldn't put them any number of them in a 5g either...
  16. dezdudeValued MemberMember

    I got my girlfriend a 10 gallon. That should be ok for one goldfish.
  17. midthoughtWell Known MemberMember

    I'm sorry to say this, but a single goldfish really belongs in a 20g or larger. :( They produce an awful lot of waste and grow to be huge. They're very long lived too when well taken care of. I know it's probably small now, but I hope she can upgrade at some point to something better suited to the species.
  18. dezdudeValued MemberMember

    dang, a 20g for one goldfish...this sucks haha. i have a 20 gallon for communtiy fish, i couldnt imagine it with only one fish in there. I think what we will have to do, is make sure that when the fish begins to get too big, we upgrade the tank or something.
  19. midthoughtWell Known MemberMember

    I know what you mean, it's kind of shocking when you consider all the other fish that can fit together in a 20g. It's just that they get *so big* as adults and they produce so much waste even for how small they are -- more than similarly sized fish. Good luck with whatever you do (or she does :)).
  20. dezdudeValued MemberMember

    I was wondering. She also like the dwarf gourami;s. if her house temp is pretty much always 74 degrees, would it be ok to put a gourami in there. she has everything except a heater

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