45 Gallon Build

  1. MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    My friend recently got a 45g aquarium and is having me build it.
    Years ago she had a 10g with:
    1 betta
    2 black skirt tetra
    3 neon tetra
    2 guppies
    She was exceptionally lucky that this group tolerated each other but she tried to add another guppy a few times and always ended badly for the new comers.

    SO, she started off wanting this same group and I explained about schooling and aggression and, after a trip to check out an awesome huge LFS the other day, she changed her list a bit. She really liked a lot of the cichlids but I don't think this size tank is enough and she would also want other community fish which wouldn't work.
    She is still adamant on having a betta.

    I know the last four wouldn't fit in a community or this size tank but would like some suggestions overall.

    This is her list of fish she likes(* next to ones she really likes):
    *Betta (I convinced her to go with a female)
    Sparkling gourami
    *Serpae tetra
    *Cardinal tetra
    Rummynose tetra(maybe)
    Platy(1)
    *Guppies(2)
    Endlers
    *Panda Cory
    Hillstream loach
    GBRs
    *Cherry shrimp
    Flower shrimp
    Neolamprologus caudopuntatus
    *
    Gold Dojo loach(1)
    Dino birchur
    Speckled tulip eel

    This is the current setup. She originally wanted black sand but I think decided to go with white.

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  2. Katie13

    Katie13 Fishlore VIP Member

    A Betta wouldn't work with her other favorites.
     
  3. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    Gouramis are in the same family as bettas, and quite similar in behavior. They would work better in a community tank, too... perhaps she could be convinced?
     


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    MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    I can see what I can do but I don't know if she will budge. Maybe I have to tell her to get a separate 10g for a betta.

    If I were to go with the gourami what would be a good stocking list?
     
  5. Katie13

    Katie13 Fishlore VIP Member

    What are the dimensions?
     
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    MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    It's about about 36 x 12.5 x 20
    I only quickly measured so I didn't get the exacts
     


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    MongooseALaMode

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  8. Katie13

    Katie13 Fishlore VIP Member

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    MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    What is that?
     
  10. Katie13

    Katie13 Fishlore VIP Member

    L052 is a Butterfly Pleco.
     
  11. Lchi87

    Lchi87 Moderator Moderator Member

    Does she know what direction she wants to go in in terms of temperature? She's got a mix of warmer tropical fish and "cooler" water fish in her list so if she can choose a lane here, it'll help us figure out a stocking plan. Is there any fish she absolutely NEEDS?
     
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    MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    I don't know if she likes plecos all that much. She wants fish that she will see all the time.
    Im not sure what would be best as far as tepurature. She lives in a basement apartment so I guess its kind of cool down there. Probably around 70 but I don't know about winter. I would say anything between 70-80 would be fine.

    She was extremely excited about the panda cory so I guess I should start with that
     
  13. Katie13

    Katie13 Fishlore VIP Member

    I just figured I would bring the L052 up as she has Hillstream Loaches listed. Does she like Bolivian Rams? I listed a stocking above with Pandas.
     
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    MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    Would it be one type of tetra?
     
  15. Katie13

    Katie13 Fishlore VIP Member

    It could be 2. I just wasn't sure what her go to would be for the tetra. I wouldn't recommend Serpaes as they have a tendency to be really nippy.
     
  16. Dave125g

    Dave125g Fishlore Legend Member

    I would have her pick her favorite centerpiece fish first. That way we can build on that based on temperature requirements.
     
  17. Aquaphobia

    Aquaphobia Fishlore Legend Member

    Is she not going to use a heater?
     
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    MongooseALaMode

    MongooseALaMode Well Known Member Member

    She is getting a heater.

    I was reading about serpae and most people say if you have enough they stay to themselves more but faster fish are ok with them.
    2 Bolivian Rams
    10 Serpae Tetra
    10 Silvertip Tetra
    12 Panda Cory
    RCS

    Just a few other ideas. I don't know if they will work
    of if she will like them

    5 Sparkling gourami
    2 Guppies
    10 Cardinal Tetra
    10 Threadfin Rainbow
    12 Panda Cory
    RCS

    8 Congo Tetra
    2 Bolivian Rams
    12 Panda cory
    RCS
     
  19. el337

    el337 Fishlore Legend Member

    What about -

    2x (m/f) Thick lipped gouramis
    4-5x (m) guppies - assuming the 2 she has are male?
    8-10x Serpae tetras
    8-10x Panda cories
    2x (m/f) Bolivian Rams
     
  20. vikingkirken

    vikingkirken Well Known Member Member

    Here's another idea:

    3 honey gouramis (1m/2f)
    5 guppies
    12 neon or ember tetras
    8 panda cories
    1 pair cockatoo cichlids (apistogramma cacatuoides)
    Nerite snails