40 Gallon Tall Build

I just got a 50 gallon tank as a birthday present and I am thinking of stocking. I will make sure to let the tank cycle, yadayada ya....
I am using aqua advisor as my weapon of choice, but it would hurt to check on here.
Stock: 20 neon tetras, 5 dwarf gouramis, and three ghost shrimp. It is ~50% stocked and I was wondering if you had any recommendations?

I am going to scrap the tetra idea and go for bigger fish. I have plenty of real estate.

 

Update: I think this is actually 40 gallons.
Stock: 5 Dwarf Gouramis, 6 Cory Catfishes, 10 Harlequin Rasboras, and 7 Zebra Danios. I plan on the temp being 72F.

 

So my friend offered a discount on some cichlid fry. They are a mix of Orange Zebras and Rustys. Does anyone know how aggressive these guys are?
Updated stock: 10 Zebra Danios, 10 Harlequin Rasboars, 6 Dwarf Corys, and 4 Honey Gourami.

 

Is the tank already cycled? What are you looking For? Aggressive fish? A community tank?

 

The tank is cycling. I am looking for a community tank with no major fighting.

 

Is cycling? Don't add any fish that you want to be healthy and happy before the cycle is done. Do you want like a center piece with schools around that center piece fish?

 

I am not adding fish. I am just figuring out my stock while it cycles. I was thinking of having 2 dwarf gouramis as the center piece but I have heard of DG Disease and there might be aggression issues with 2 male dwarf gouramis.
EDIT: the Harlequin Rasboars and Zebra Danios would be the schools along with dwarf or normal corys.

 

What are the dimensions of the tank?

It sounds like you've moved on but I would highly suggest not doing that many dwarf gouramis. Honey gouramis would be a better option or depending on the dimensions, a trio of pearl gouramis or sunset thicklip gouramis

 

Dimensions : 36in long, 12in depth, 23in high.

 

There is aggression with two males. How about an angel as the center piece? Or angels.

 

Could I do a pair of angels? Based on my filter capacity, I would have to reduce the schools of the Zebra Danios and the Harlequin Rasboars from 10 to 8

Have to do school I will be able to check and respond in between classes and during lunch.

 

So what do you want? You want to keep your fish? Zebra danios are in the cooler temp range while angels are in the higher temp range

 

I don’t know anything about angels, but honey gouramis are very peaceful and good to keep in groups as opposed to dgs who will fight.

 

Ok well then don't get angels. Honey gouramis sound good.

 

Well looking at angels they are cool looking. If I scrap the Zebra Danios, would I be able to keep a pair of angels? Or I could keep with this: 10 Zebra Danios, 10 Harlequin Rasboars, 6 Dwarf Corys, and 4 Honey Gourami.
Edit: temp wise, if I got rid of the Danios all the inhabitants would be able to co exist. Would the angels temperament be fine with the Corys and Rasboars?

 

Angels can be a mixed bag. If you manage to get a pair that can live together then you should be fine keeping a pair in a 36 inch long tank. But you would definitely need to remove the danios. Do you know what species your dwarf corydoras are? There are 3 common species. Habrosus, hastatus, and pygmaeus.

You would need to keep the temp at 76 or 77 to ensure there that both the corydoras and angels are in a temp that is comfortable.

 

Angels can be a mixed bag. If you manage to get a pair that can live together then you should be fine keeping a pair in a 36 inch long tank. But you would definitely need to remove the danios. Do you know what species your dwarf corydoras are? There are 3 common species. Habrosus, hastatus, and pygmaeus.

You would need to keep the temp at 76 or 77 to ensure there that both the corydoras and angels are in a temp that is comfortable.

Exactly what I was gonna say next

 

Danios are out. My LFS’s are a mixed bag. For simplicity I think I should just do the normal size (Corydoras Ioxozonus, I assume these are what the LFS has)

 

loxozonus is actually a cooler water cory. Would not be a good match for the angels. Any of the dwarf species would work at 76 or 77. But if you wanted more flexibility, species like sterbai, aeneus, or brochis would allow you to keep the tank a bit warmer.

 

If I wanted the dwarfs I would have to have them ordered in. I guess when I stock the tank the Corys will be last. I guess might as well ask, would Otos be fine just to be lazy and not order fish in?

 

Oto's (vittatus) would be fine but have the same temperature limitation as the dwarfs would. You'd want to make sure to keep it around 76 or 77 (unless it's the less common vestitus species who does better in warmer waters).

But just so you know, in my experience otos spend very little time on the floor. So if you are looking for a bottom dweller they probably will not fit the bill. Also, i've seen anecdotal evidence from other fish keepers with angels that they like to peck at the otos while they hang on the glass. Not something I can speak to myself as I've never kept angels.

Winter is a tough time of the year for ordering fish. I will say I've had success with Trins Fish when it comes to ordering in the winter. I have a coupon with them if you decide to go that route.

 

I’m not too concerned with Otos being bottom dwellers. If neither LFS has dwarf Corys or Otos, the. I will see if my LFS can order some dwarf Corys.

 

Thanks for the help. My new stock: 2 angel fish, 10 Harlequin Rasboars, and 6 Dwarf Corys or 6 Otos.

 

Oh, I forgot to mention. I have large pebbles and another post says that Corys need sand. Are dwarfs an exception?

 

They don't NEED sand. But sand is better for almost all bottom dwellers. Though if your gravel has nice rounded edges and isn't sharp, they should do fine.

 

Thanks. My gravel is more like tumbled pebbles.

 

I think you are likely fine then

 

$31.88 for everything but the Corys/Otos! (I haven’t bought yet! Price based on Petco’s website.)

 

What order should I add the fishes? The rasboars, then the angels then the Cory/Otos?

 

If you get the angels young I think that would be fine. If you decide on the otos, I'd have the tank established for a month at least before putting them in. THey need a good supply of algae and biofilm to sustain them during the transition and it usually takes a few weeks for that stuff to develop.

If you don't have algae before you put them in, one thing you can do is take a bowl of used tank water and stick a rock in it completely submerged. Then stick it outside where it can receive a lot of sunlight. You should have algae growing on it within a week or so. That should give the otos something to munch on as a lot of times they will not take to algae wafers. Also providing fresh veggies will help

 

Due to no better place to put the tank, it is in mild sunlight in the after noon no algae yet though

 

I will replace the fake plants with real ones as they grow in my 10 gallon. The only fake plant staying is the BONZI! It’s just too cool.

 

I got some fish! Some bad pics, but I have one small angelfish and four Cory catfish.

 

You need more cories. Is that what's in the 10 gallon? If so a full grown angel can't thrive in a 10 gallon

 

This is a 40... The store only had 4 Corys at the time

 

Well try to get more as soon as they get more. Maybe look in another lfs

 

Yep I will be sure to get 2 more.

 

At least!

 

I also think of due to risk of getting 2 male angelfish or having 2 pair off and being overwhelmed by babies, I think I will stick with the one angel.

 

An annoying problem I have had with my Tetra whisper 60 is that it is leaking from the power box. I have tried oiling the gasket with coconut oil, changing the gasket, and sealing the box with hot glue.