40 Breeder Equipment Help

Discussion in 'Saltwater Beginners' started by Nicholas Graham, Apr 9, 2017.

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    Nicholas Graham Valued Member Member

    I'm a complete noob self confessed. I'm trying to get a build going. I have the 2 breeder tanks one, display other sump/refugium. I have a 100 gpd rodi filter. I have planted freshwater tank experience but this will be my first saltwater tank.
    I am doing this for my son and he's in the last couple months of freshman year. Next year he's taking marine biology and who wouldn't love to have a nice reef tank
    I am thinking about an ATI t5 fixture, either the 36" 4 lamp or the 24" 6 lamp. Probably mag 7 return pump. Overflow from glass holes. 2 korillia circ pumps. Reef octopus 110 int skimmer. Reef keeper lite. Need to plan my sump out and get the glass cut....
    I have checked out many builds. I need help with pretty much everything and general advice. If any of the listed equipment isn't correct, or is mis-sized please tell me. Is there anything else I need? If anyone has the time to lend a hand. I'll try to document my build and everything I learn.
     
  2. Coradee

    Coradee Moderator Moderator Member

    Giving this a bump up for you
     
  3. Nart

    Nart Well Known Member Member

    Looks like you have a pretty good idea of what you are wanting to build.
    I built a 10G sump for my 15G, but never ended up using and ended up upgrading my tank to one of those all in one set-ups.
    Here's how my set-up looks like:

    Umm... advice... when making your baffles, make sure to dry fit your equipment in the sump so you can plan the distance of the baffles to your equipment going in.
    Honestly, there's soooo many different sump set-ups that no one sump is better then the other.
    I went with a very simple one.... to give you an idea.
    my 10G sump measure 12" height. My first baffle was 9" then maximized the most amount of space in the middle because I wanted it to be a refugium, then I had a 6" baffle followed by a 7" baffle and another 6" baffle, that was basically my micro bubble catcher. And that was it. Return pump in the last chamber.

    Are you pretty set on ATI T5 light fixtures? T5 lights grow corals really well, but needs to be replaced like yearly depending on the lamps.
    A lot of folks go with Kessil or AI Prime lights too. Or even Radion lights. WWC (World Wide Corals uses Radion lights exclusively and their corals speak for themselves.
    As for pumps, I'm not a huge fan of korralias, the 425 model I had died on me in less than 1 month and I rarely even used it. I am currently using the Jebao SW-2. It's a china product, but for the price point and the wavemaker that it is, it's pretty awesome. It's able to make different pulsing flow patterns to it, which is nice for the corals as it's not receiving a constant flowing on just 1 side. If you are looking for a higher end power-head with all those variable controls, go with a Vortech MP-10.
    What heater are you using by the way? I'd recommend a Cobalt Neotherm.

    Good luck!
     
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    Nicholas Graham Valued Member Member

    Heaters are 3, 100w eheim jaggers. Not completely sold on the ATI fixture. But like the light they out out. I found with LEDs the corals grow toward the single point of light and shade out the underneath. Sometimes creating odd shaped corals and limiting the placement of pretty much everything. I have LEDs on my planted fresh water tank and I am a believer, but putting multiple LEDs over a 40 would be expensive. I have looked into it. Quickly added up to $800+. With bulbs the ATI is under 500. I could go lower end and be just over 200. I have spent the majority of my research time on lighting, and still not sure
     
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    Nicholas Graham Valued Member Member

    Also I was looking at the newest version of the koralia... Seems much improved and great reviews. Not sold on them though. I am looking for ideas so thank you very much. Exactly what I was looking for.
     
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    Nicholas Graham Valued Member Member

    Basically going for the tried and true method
     
  7. Nart

    Nart Well Known Member Member

    I think the biggest complaint with T5 lighting is the bulb replacement. So your cost over-time catches up.
    But yes, the cost of higher-end LED lights... whew.

    A cheaper alternative would be this: https://www.amazon.com/MarsAqua-Dim...UTF8&qid=1491931156&sr=8-1&keywords=mars+aqua
    I spoke with local hobbyists that uses these to grow their corals and they say for the price, they work well. So you would only shell out $200 for something that can even grow SPS corals.

    But hey - some reefers swear by T5 only... so it's all personal preference.
     
  8. Nart

    Nart Well Known Member Member

    I think the biggest complaint with T5 lighting is the bulb replacement. So your cost over-time catches up.
    But yes, the cost of higher-end LED lights... whew.

    A cheaper alternative would be this: https://www.amazon.com/MarsAqua-Dim...UTF8&qid=1491931156&sr=8-1&keywords=mars+aqua
    I spoke with local hobbyists that uses these to grow their corals and they say for the price, they work well. So you would only shell out $200 for something that can even grow SPS corals.

    But hey - some reefers swear by T5 only... so it's all personal preference.
     




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