40 Breeder Build

bizaliz3- When I go to the pet store I will look for it!

Tomorrow will post a pic of the tank when the water isn't cloudy. Can't wait for the light to come since it will make viewing easier! By the way if you don't know I ordered a Finnex Stingray.

 

It looks like you've got a good start! Looking forward to more pictures with lighting since I can't see much right now though. If I have extra room in my filter, I use it to seed extra media so that I'm never without a colony of good bacteria...helps with MTS haha.

 

According to seriously fish, rummynose tetras temp requirements are 76-80. And according to coradee and fishbase, peppered cory's require temps no higher than 74. I believe this is what @TexasDomer is referring to when she says they are not temp compatible. I agree

 

I agree about temp incompatibility of the rummy noses and peppered corys as well. I've even read no higher than 72 for peppered corys from Coradee. Since you already have them though, you'll probably want to swap the rummies for neons or zebra danios?

You can replace the carbon with anything you want. Personally, I would put in another bag of Biomax or Seachem Matrix for additional bio filtration.

The tank looks great so far!

 

Had to look up with temperature for both since I have never kept rummynose. Maybe I am reading something wrong but there does appear to be an overlap according to several sources

@Coradee says they're temp shouldn't be above 72 F, and rummies' lowest is 76 F according to SF and FB

TexasDomer - I'm keeping the temp at 74 degrees. I checked online!?!? What are their temp then? I wanted rummy nose due to their tight schooling

clk89 - thanks for reading it

You could always switch the peppered out for C. sterbai? They're spotted and quite beautiful.

Love the plants! Can't wait to see a non-cloudy pic. I've been waiting for a pic with the light on it before commenting on it haha

 

I'm just gonna ask though but which should I trust? And I don't wan't to question your information but is their evidence or scientific reasoning? From different people keeping cories and online the main range is 72-78. So...

 

Glad your getting a Bristle nose pleco. My computer has been having problems for a few days. Hubby has been working on it so hopefully it is fixed. I love all the plants it is going to be interesting to see it grow. I like the way they were laid out. Good job. Alison

 

Glad your getting a Bristle nose pleco. My computer has been having problems for a few days. Hubby has been working on it so hopefully it is fixed. I love all the plants it is going to be interesting to see it grow. I like the way they were laid out. Good job. Alison

What is your stand on the temp compatibility of peppered cories and rummy nose tetras?

 

You could always switch the rummynose out for C. sterbai? They're spotted and quite beautiful.

I think you mean switch the peppered corys?

 

This is just my personal preference, but when in doubt I try to refer to seriouslyfish as a reference. BUT I know that sometimes they can be off. So I always use fishbase (not as user friendly of a website) to confirm the findings. If they are a catfish, I'll look at sites like planetcatfish, or loaches.com for loach information. I try to take all information from my trusted sites to come up with a good idea. But for me the two best sources are a combination of fishbase and seriouslyfish.

Then there are species experts on here like doubledutch and coradee for cories. aquarist for blood parrots, etc etc. I go to them for personal experience and expertise.

With coradee and fishbase saying pepper coried need 72ish temps and fishbase saying rummynose are tropical, seriously fish saying they need to be above 76, and fishbase saying peppered cories are subtropical, that's enough evidence for me to say they probably aren't compatible.

 

I'm just gonna ask though but which should I trust? And I don't wan't to question your information but is their evidence or scientific reasoning? From different people keeping cories and online the main range is 72-78. So...

That's why I use Seriously Fish and FishBase. Both are backed by scientific info. Other sites, like LiveAquaria, seem to list similar temps for all fish because it's convenient and makes putting fish together easier. People can also keep fish at way different temperatures than what they're found, so I go for the temps listed on these reputable sites rather than most people's personal experiences.

 

Oh! Didn't see that part on seriously fish (which I usually use). . So any suggestions to replace the rummy nose! I don't want neons or any aggressive fish that will eat adult shrimps!

OMG!!!!! My lights and heater just arrived!!! Gonna set it up! I never had lights before since I relied on regular sun light

 

I think we're being a little picky here.

We can all find sources to support our opinion on which temperature are good for peppered cories.
PlanetCatfish says wild caught require the cooler temps. I think it's safe to say the cories in our locals stores are not wild caught.

Mine have been well for years in 74-76ish. Perhaps according to some sources on the high range but it hasn't stopped them from being active and breeding.

Looks like you have an exciting day with the lights and heater arriving

 

Oh! Didn't see that part on seriously fish (which I usually use). . So any suggestions to replace the rummy nose! I don't want neons or any aggressive fish that will eat adult shrimps!

Fish don't need to be aggressive to eat shrimp, they just need to have mouths big enough for shrimp to fit. Bigger things will eat smaller things and there's no way around that unfortunately. What you can do is build up your shrimp colony first so that if a few are eaten, you still have a sustainable population. Or you can opt for a bigger shrimp species.

 

I would try to keep them in their natural temps, personally.

It would be easier to replace the peppered cories (so you can keep the temp higher than 72 F), but you can replace the rummies too. What about replacing them with a large school of celestial pearl dainos? They can handle the cooler temp and they won't bother your shrimp.

 

Here's the tank finally got everything

 

That looks great! Once those plants grow it's gonna be awesome.

The drip look looks good. Did you use velcro?

 

I respect all of your ideas but its a tough choice. The problem with CPDs is that they are hard to find at pet stores and most likely won't get my hand on them.

 

You can always order online? There are also hundreds of other species that would work instead We can drop it if you want, but I don't want you to think there aren't other options

 

OK drop all of them. Will the Harlequin tetra work? I want fish that go well together both in temp and color. Right now I'm not in a hurry to stock my tank so I'm willing to spend as much time to get the right combination if fish.

 

How about this...

3 male Guppies
10x rummy-nose tetra
10x Harlequin Rasbora (that's the plan if I can get my hands on some)
1x bristlenose
4x nerite snails
8x aeneus corys
8x cherry shrimp/rili/yellow (however I'm thinking of getting more from eBay or aquabid)

the aeneus has a very wide range for temp compatibility. you can pretty much do anything with them in the 70's and low 80's. Harlequin's have a pretty wide range too.

 

Yeah but I fell in love with my corys. I had the bronze corys back then and want to try a different kind. I'm willing to change my stocking just want so that I have a bristlenose (if I can get one). I'm sure my guppies can handle any temp.

 

guppies are fine and as long as you don't go into the 80+ temp realm then the BN will be fine as well. Have you considered loaches? Kuhli's could be fun. I wouldn't do any of the botia loaches as they may eat the nerite snails.

Or if you wanted something completely different, you could try a syno catfish. You can't do any of the larger species but a school of lucipinnis would be a nice addition.

 

Enjoyed reading this thread, don't have any advice at this point but if you haven't looked in the kuhlI loaches like tyguy said I'd consider them, you can get a good sized group and they love planted tanks

 

I thought that it wasn't a good thing to have 2 schools of bottone feeders. So. Right now the permanent inhabitants are 3 male guppies, 4 nerite snails, neocardina shrimp, and 8 peppered corys

 

I thought that it wasn't a good thing to have 2 schools of bottone feeders. So. Right now the permanent inhabitants are 3 male guppies, 4 nerite snails, neocardina shrimp, and 8 peppered corys

I believe the person meant to get loaches instead of cory cats. It isn't a great ideal to get both, because cory cats can out compete kuhilI loaches for food. Plus there is the whole size of the tank too meaning less territory with other loaches.

 

Just added the corys!!!

 

If you thinking of a shelf, you could always add 4 small shelf brackets (L shaped) on the inside of each leg, measure the distance between both legs then the length of the stand and cut a piece.. Slip it in and screw it from under the shelf

Simple way to add a shelf without extra hassle

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Sorry for the 3 posts but I can't edit previous posts

 

Just added my 3 guppies! They really do look beautiful with the bright light!

 

@TexasDomer So I'm willing to order online for whatever stocking that anyone is willing to offer. I am not going to rush it since I rather plan carefully and get what I like since it will remain their for at least 3 years. Do you recommend any places to get fish? Right now I'm looking at LiveAquaria due to the fact they are on the lower side on price for shipping. I am also trying to buy all my fishes from one place. I'm also looking at Aquatic Arts.

So I'm looking at Lampchop Rasboras, are they good?

 

I've use msjinkzd and Wetspot. Wetspot is not cheap, but they're reliable and have good quality fish.

 

msjinkzd is great. I've ordered most of my orders from Trins Fish and have had very good success.

 

So I'm looking at Aquatic Carts and was wondering if $21 is a good price for shipping. I'm looking into Lampchop rasboras and the sakura fire cherry shrimp

 

How long will it take for them to get to you?

 

TexasDomer 3-5 days handling but 2 days of it actually being ship

Are the lampchop rasbora compatible?

 

They should be fine with a temp around 71 or 72 for the peppered cories

 

That doesn't seem unreasonable for 2 day shipping.

 

Ok! So here's the stuff I'm going to buy from Aquatic Arts:
20 sakura red cherry shrimp - $35.90
12 lambchop rasboras - $23
shipping - $21

total: $58.90

 

So now I'm clearing my 10 gallon and collecting any shrimps that survived and will transfer them to the 40 breeder!

 

Here's an update for photos;