300 Gallon:Beginnings and Ideas

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Hello everyone,

As some of you have known, I'm getting a 300 gallon starphire tank with dual corner overflow this sunday. The tank is set up to be in a basement so I will need to fix/modify the stand so it will look suitable in my living room.

First step is to get all the additional equipment. Second step is to modify the stand and make the canopy. Third step is the actual set up and progress.

Plan:
-72x36x27 aquarium
-10'x3'x27" stand and canopy
-the sump and refugI'm included in the purchase
-ETSS 800 for external skimmer
-ASM 400+ as in sump
-IwakI 55 RLT as return
-2xEcotech Vortech mp 40 (will need more in future)
-3x400 watts metal halides with lumenarcs
-4x110w VHO
-500w heater (probably need more in future)

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The tank and included stand with sump. The tank looks hazy because it's full of dust. Has been sitting in the basemnt for two years. (still have starphire sticker-lol)

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Refugim. From the look of it, it looks like around 20-30 gallons

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The idea and plan of the stand. Two feet will be added to both ends of the tank so total will be 10 feet long. Reason is because the ETSS is too tall and there's no room for workspace because sump is too big.

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Wow, that's going to be a huge stand and tank. How much will all the live rock and sand cost?
 
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Hello ATP
ooooooooh That's going to be nice! Congrats on the new tank.
Ken
 
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Gouramiguy17 said:
How much will all the live rock and sand cost?
Don't know yet. Price range in my local group is around 2-4 dollars a pound. Ther person who's selling met this offered me like 8 or 10 bags of unopened live sand for free, but I', going with bare bottom. There's too many sand flying around in my 125 and there's barely and sand left so nope-no sand

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ooooooooh That's going to be nice! Congrats on the new tank.
Ken
Thanks kent
 
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WOW!!!!!That's all I can say....it will be beautiful!!!!!!!!
 
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10 feet long....wow, that's huge. That's so exciting though!
 
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thanks everyone

Now I need the equipment. I need to get a 110V/220V transformer and a 220v timer for one of the ballast, two more 400w ballast(already found one), a 500w heater, ecotech mp40, a ton of rocks
 
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The tank will be delayed until next weekend. Couldn't find people to help lift the tank.
 
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Current Equipment plan:
Equipment purchased:
3x400w MH ballast
4x110 watts VHO set up
1xETSS 800 downdraft skimmer
1xETSS additional collection cup
1xGen-X pump
1xASM 400 with pump
1xmp40

Equipment Needed
1xpolario 22(instead of mp40)
1xlumenarc
1xtank and sumo, etc itself-lol
1xheater

Livestock needed:
250lb. of Live Rock
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So I now have majority of the equipment so its closer to being set up

ATP,

LR is going to cost a ton..
 
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after much consideration, the tank upgrade plan will be cancelled..........

I would need to have installed support in my crawl space which would cost money and If I were to do it my self would be hard. I could barely fit into it. It's like 2ft high. If I were to put the tank anyways, the support for the floor may be damagedin the long run.

instead of getting a 300, I'll be getting another 125 reef. So one will walkaround and one will be behind the wall.
 
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Sorry to hear about your decision, but I'm sure it's the right choice. A tank crashing through the floor would have been a terrible thing to come home to

At least you get another 125!

Dave
 
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still. I wish I have a basement. That 300 would of been sweet. 36" wide. Good for rockwork.:'(

Anyways, we found a brand new 125 gallon tank only ith overflow for 275. It'll be 72"x18"x20 something inches high. So total after same design of stand will be 10'

Current Equipment That's in my head:
3x400w MH 14K
ETSS 800 skimmer
Nautilus TE skimmer
Polario 22
3xlumanarc
 
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That will be a gorgeous stand with plenty of space for all the goodies.

I've already told my wife our next house will have to have a slab basement or at least a slab concrete family room for me to put larger tanks in. I hate having to worry about my floors, and I only have a 55, 90, and a 29 in my living room

Dave
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Currently I have a 125 reef in my family room and a 65 reef, 29 gallon to hold LR, 55 gallon with 2 goldfish.

Selling the 65 soon after the new 125 finishes its future cycle
 
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LOL, you edited my post to add a reply, I was all messed up figuring out what was going on.

Sounds like your room is reaching capacity too, I hope your house isn't 50yrs old like mine, I can just feel my joists groaning under the weight, lol. Are you transfering the contents of the 65 into the 125? Definitely be nice with two 125's, a good size tank.

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wow...300 gallons is a lot anyway.
at least you got a 125? even then that is a lot of space to aquascape and house your reef of your dreams.
 
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jr177 said:
wow...300 gallons is a lot anyway.
at least you got a 125? even then that is a lot of space to aquascape and house your reef of your dreams.
true. I'll have two 125s by summer.

The thing I like with thet 300 is that its really deep and wide at the same time while maintaing good length. It has like a depth. If you look at my 125, and compare it to an actual reef,It looks like the foreground. If you take the 300, its the whole thing. You'll have realistic forground, mid, and backround because its really wide and tall.
 
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david C said:
lol, You Edited My Post To Add A Reply, I Was All Messed Up Figuring Out What Was Going On.

Sounds Like Your Room Is Reaching Capacity Too, I Hope Your House Isn't 50yrs Old Like Mine, I Can Just Feel My Joists Groaning Under The Weight, Lol. Are You Transfering The Contents Of The 65 Into The 125? Definitely Be Nice With Two 125's, A Good Size Tank.

Dave
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found a great deal for an Oceanic 120 gallon tech tank. Dimensions-48x24x25.
Tank is starphire.
 
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I was hoping that you will get the 300 gallon but oh well. Good luck on your 125 or 120 gallon though. :3
 
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so it is the same length as a regular 55??? but just wider and taller right?

sorry, wanted to quote not edit-ATP
 
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yup. I prefer it being wider than 18". Normal 125 is 6'x18"x22",but 18" is a little narrow for good rockwork.
 
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Bracing up from a crawl space is not that difficult if you can get to it at all .. you can go the low tech route and use cinder blocks and wedges, or you can do it right and get sidewalk blocks and screw jacks from your local lumber yard for not much money at all.. after all you are just adding support, not building a foundation.

A tank sounds like a lot of weight, but what you are talking about will be less than 3500 pounds. If you put heavy bracing all around the bottom of the stand you will be spreading that over 25 square feet, so it's only about 140 pounds per square foot. That's less of a load than either you or your refrigerator put on the floor. A couple of screw jacks or block pillars five feet apart centered under the aquarium would be all you need at most.
 
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Atavar said:
Bracing up from a crawl space is not that difficult if you can get to it at all .. you can go the low tech route and use cinder blocks and wedges, or you can do it right and get sidewalk blocks and screw jacks from your local lumber yard for not much money at all.. after all you are just adding support, not building a foundation.

A tank sounds like a lot of weight, but what you are talking about will be less than 3500 pounds. If you put heavy bracing all around the bottom of the stand you will be spreading that over 25 square feet, so it's only about 140 pounds per square foot. That's less of a load than either you or your refrigerator put on the floor. A couple of screw jacks or block pillars five feet apart centered under the aquarium would be all you need at most.
The crawl space is like 2ft high...and some places are very hard if not possible to go there because of all the vents etc. that's why I didn't go for it.
 
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I don't know.. if you can get to the spot under the aquarium I think it would be worth one day of torture to get under there and brace it up for the reward of having a magnificent tank like that.

You can use an old miners trick and crawl in on your back dragging nothing but a loop of rope long enough to reach. Then have a helper tie what you need to the rope and you can pull it to you. If you use a loop of rope then you and the helper will always have the rope within reach.

If you wanted to get really extreme about it the aquarium is probably never going to move again, so you *could* cut a trap door in the floor under the aquarium and work through that, then patch it in when the tomming is in place.

While you are at it you could run a separate electric, a drain and a water supply up in to the stand. Think of how jealous all your aquarist buddy's would be.. lol
 
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Thanks for keeping us updated ATP.
Ken
 
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