30 Gallon tank stocking

  1. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Would this would be a good stock / setup for my 29 gallon tank?

    I do a 20% water change each week and a 45% water change each month
    It's 30" long, 19" tall, 12" wide
    Temperature: about 74F.
    Filteration: Two 15 gallon filters, I plan on getting a 40+ gallon filter soon.
    Substrate: Sand (few small shells)
    Live plants: Amazon sword plant, marimo mass balls, Amazon Frogbit.

    * = currently owned

    *1 Nerite Snail
    *4 Amano Shrimp
    *1 Male Dwarf Gourami
    1 Male Pearl Gourami
    2 Female Pearl Gourami
    1 Vampire Shrimp
    1 Siamese Algea Eater
    8 Neon Tetra
    4 Cardinal Tetra

    Thanks in advance for all replies / suggestions
  2. el337 Fishlore Legend Member

    Welcome to Fishlore :)

    It's usually not recommended to mix gourami species especially males. I also don't think you have the room to have all 4 gouramis anyway. I would just stick with the one DG you have.

    SAE's get up to 6 inches and need a group of 6+ so I don't think those will work. 74F is at the low end for cardinals so I would pick a different schooling fish.

    What about kuhli loaches or a cooler water cory species like panda corys or false julii corys? You can have 8-10 of those?

    I don't know anything about vampire shrimp so someone else will have to weigh in on them.
  3. superbutterfly12 Well Known Member Member

    You'll want to add vampire shrimp last. They eat microscopic life in your tanks water so you'll need to build up a supply for them first
  4. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    So that leaves me at

    1 Nerite snail
    4 Amano shrimp
    1 male Dwarf Gourami
    8 neon tetras
    1 vampire shrimp
    3 Kuhli loaches

    Is there anything else I can add to the tank like a top dwelling fish or different algae eater(s)?
  5. JeffK Well Known Member Member

    I'd add 3 more Kuhli loaches to make 6 (they like company) and add another 4 neons to make 12. Just my 2 cents!
  6. superbutterfly12 Well Known Member Member

    I second that suggestion, you might get additional nerites in different patterns for variety or otos as additional algae eaters, I can't tell you much about top swimmers though, I don't really have any other than guppies/endlers.
  7. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    I'd even add enough kuhlis to have 8-12 and enough neons to have 15.

    What about adding a Bolivian ram?
  8. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    So if I get / have

    1 male DG
    5 Kuhli loaches
    10 neon tetras
    5 cardinal tetras (after I raise the temp to around 76)
    4 Amano shrimp
    1 vampire shrimp
    3 Nerite snails

    Will I still have room for
    algae eater(s)
    Top dwelling fish
    And/or Centerpiece fish?
  9. superbutterfly12 Well Known Member Member

    I say yes you do still have some room
  10. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    You need a minimum of 6 kuhlis, and more is better.

    I wouldn't mix cardinals and neons - they look almost identical, but they won't school.

    76 F is too warm for neons.

    You could do something like this:

    10x Kuhli loaches
    10-15x Neon tetras
    6-8x Otos
    1x DG
    1x Bolivian Ram
    4x Amano shrimp
    1x vampire shrimp
    3x Nerite snails

    Otos and Amanos for algae eating; neons for mid/top dwelling fish; and DG and Bolivian as your centerpiece fish.
  11. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Is there any bigger, darker centerpiece fish that would be happy in my tank that won't eat smaller fish (neons)?

    I have white sand, so I want something that will look good against white.
  12. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    To replace the ram or the DG?
  13. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    The ram, I already have the DG
  14. superbutterfly12 Well Known Member Member

    Darker...like black or red? A male swordtail might work, get up to six inches and come in red and black varieties.
  15. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    If I go with swordtails, could I get 1 male and 2 females? Also, I can't find anything that says they get 6", they usually get around 4".
  16. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    I wouldn't add any females or your tank will be overrun with fry (even with other fish eating the fry).

    You could do a black male molly or two?
  17. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    I just thought that would cause fighting (sense they look so much alike)
  18. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    Who are you worried about fighting?
  19. superbutterfly12 Well Known Member Member

    Mollies come in black too? I've only seen white and dalmatian ones. Personally I like the swords because it is so obvious whether they are boys or girls you don't have to have any faith in your fish store employee. The big ones including the sword look closer to 6 inches to me...but I'm short and they are up high at my local store. I probably look ridiculous standing on tiptoe trying to see into the tanks.
  20. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    I will most likely be getting 1 male swordtail and 2 male mollies, but I was just wondering if there was any other fish that would work.