3 Gallon Shrimp Cube

richiep
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From What I see in the video they looks good
 

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sinned4g63
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  • #52
From What I see in the video they looks good
Thanks! I believe the one that passed may have been the one with the scarutellia as you suggested. The 5 remaining look like they day they came home aside from the racing stripes. I'm not positive what happened but it was turning cloudy but the time I picked it up so it was for sure gone. On another note there is a fresh molt as of today I found about an hour ago after work and one of the biggest shrimplets is almost the size of a grain of rice.
 

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Mary765
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Moults are always good! I find when my shrimp are moulting they usually do well I'm a new shrimp keeper, so I'm still learning a lot as I go along.

You got your shrimplets were born exactly 6 days before mine! Here, I've attached a photo of one of them at 9 days old (they are about 5mm big and already pretty red for a newborn)
 

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sinned4g63
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Moults are always good! I find when my shrimp are moulting they usually do well I'm a new shrimp keeper, so I'm still learning a lot as I go along.

You got your shrimplets were born exactly 6 days before mine! Here, I've attached a photo of one of them at 9 days old (they are about 5mm big and already pretty red for a newborn)
Just got home and found another molt!
 
sinned4g63
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  • #55
We are now at 3 different molts. I also caught a small gathering but ofcourse while trying to take a picture one of the shrimp launched away..
 

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sinned4g63
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Cleaning today and found another dead shrimp. Last night I believe they were all still alive along with at least 1 shrimplet about the size of a grain of rice if not a tad bigger though that's the only one I can see. I immediately tested the water before the change and everything was good. Though I'm still learning gh/kh so I could use some insight.. pH is 7.4 to 7.6, gh was 6 drops and kh was 4 drops before any change in color. Pics of the shrimp attached. I also added a piece of cuttlebone just last night.
 

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Mary765
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I'm just speculating here but that doesn't look like the disease you thought it was. I'm guessing by the legs position and the change in colour of the torso only it's a failed moult?

richie.p what do you think? I don't know much about shrimp but I'm trying to learn..
 
richiep
  • #58
Your right there Mary765 it is a failed moult you can see the split in the reflection on the first photo. Theres nothing wrong with the perameters they check out fine And it still seems to be the first shrimp you put in, no young have died have they? What are you feeding? Do you know how old they are? Did you do the transition to RO water to quick this would also account for it
 
sinned4g63
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  • #59
I'm just speculating here but that doesn't look like the disease you thought it was. I'm guessing by the legs position and the change in colour of the torso only it's a failed moult?

richie.p what do you think? I don't know much about shrimp but I'm trying to learn..
I'm not suspecting the same disease from before. The first shrimp that died looked the same so I'm also saying failed molt.
Your right there Mary765 it is a failed moult you can see the split in the reflection on the first photo. Theres nothing wrong with the perameters they check out fine And it still seems to be the first shrimp you put in, no young have died have they? What are you feeding? Do you know how old they are? Did you do the transition to RO water to quick this would also account for it
They are still the first batch. When I took out the filter I think last weekend there were 5 or 6 babies hiding behind it but I put the filter in the same bucket I drained the water into and looked very carefully, it did not appear any came out with it. I have seen an older shrimplet consistently this week but that's the only one, I haven't seen any others. I use a pellet food I can't remember the name of but it's the same kind the guy who tends the shrimp feeds the ones at the stores. I'm actually preparing zucchinI now as well.

For the RO transition I've been taking out 2 quarts or about half a gallon for the changes. I've only used up half of what I set aside for them. Same as as the water change I re dose bacterAE but only once a week. Also odd there's a fresh molt in the tank..
 
Mary765
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Your right there Mary765 it is a failed moult you can see the split in the reflection on the first photo. Theres nothing wrong with the perameters they check out fine And it still seems to be the first shrimp you put in, no young have died have they? What are you feeding? Do you know how old they are? Did you do the transition to RO water to quick this would also account for it

Ah, glad I am learning then!

Sorry about your loss Sinned4g63, losing shrimp is very hard..

Moulting problems are usually due to shock or bad water. Could be shock if you didn't acclimatised properly, or weren't extra careful with water changes, could be bad water if you live in an area with particularly hard or soft water.

I've never had to worry about water contents (par nitrates, I have a whole load of nitrates in my tap) but my water is rich in dissolved calcium and minerals from the tap. You might have to get something to balance out your water if you're sure it wasn't a shock moult problem. They might sell that sorta thing in specialised shrimp shops, but if you carefully dose shell or cuttlebone that could work too.

I'm not suspecting the same disease from before. The first shrimp that died looked the same so I'm also saying failed molt.

Sorry, I might be thinking of a different thread!
 
sinned4g63
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  • #61
Mary765 They have been in the tank for about a month now, I'm not sure what the cause of the molt issues are as richie.p said the water looks good. This morning I even found another molt in addition to the new one I found yesterday. Nothing has changed except for starting the transition to RO water but I've been doing that no more then once a week half a gallon at a time.. I'm not really sure what I can do at this point aside from replace what I've lost.
 

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sinned4g63
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  • #62
Came home today and found a tiny shrimplet on the glass and the maturing one out and about. Not sure if it's another batch or some that may have been hiding but I only saw the one. Also richie.p the food is Aqueon Omnivore shrimp pellets. I tried algae pellets and the blanched zucchinI but they didn't touch either one.
 

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richiep
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Don't give up on zucchinI you need to.tzke the seeds out and cook for 5 minutes in boiling water, try again in a few days they need to get used to new food, plus if they don't eaten it is a sign there's plenty in the tank,
 
sinned4g63
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  • #64
Don't give up on zucchinI you need to.tzke the seeds out and cook for 5 minutes in boiling water, try again in a few days they need to get used to new food, plus if they don't eaten it is a sign there's plenty in the tank,
I hope so. Every time I offer food they hardly touch it. They do like the omnivore pellets but they never finish one. I'm glad to see a baby pop up though!
 
richiep
  • #65
If they only take part of the pellet and say you feed every day change that to every other day so they may eat more of it if not all, then in place of the pellet try zucchinI once a week if the refuse it take it out and don't feed any food for 2 days then try again, that normally dose the trick
 
sinned4g63
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  • #66
If they only take part of the pellet and say you feed every day change that to every other day so they may eat more of it if not all, then in place of the pellet try zucchinI once a week if the refuse it take it out and don't feed any food for 2 days then try again, that normally dose the trick
I will do that, thanks! Do you find you have better luck with other veggies? I just use zucchinI because my other shrimp eat it but I certainly don't mind trying something else, I think you suggested broccolI stems.
 

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richiep
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I will do that, thanks! Do you find you have better luck with other veggies? I just use zucchinI because my other shrimp eat it but I certainly don't mind trying something else, I think you suggested broccolI stems.

Cook the broccolI as normal take the stem cut it in half lengthwise and drop it in, if they are still feeding on it after 2hrs leave it in until no more interest. You can also put spinach in boiling water for 40 seconds then carefully push onto a stick like in my avatar you will probably have to put some led on the stick to hold it down, or try pushing it to the bottom and see if it stays there, you can also try mushroom not cooked but needs to be pushed onto the stick then cut carefully so it don't fall into bits as it floats, i'v attached photo of mushrooms to give you the idea
 

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sinned4g63
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Cook the broccolI as normal take the stem cut it in half lengthwise and drop it in, if they are still feeding on it after 2hrs leave it in until no more interest. You can also put spinach in boiling water for 40 seconds then carefully push onto a stick like in my avatar you will probably have to put some led on the stick to hold it down, or try pushing it to the bottom and see if it stays there, you can also try mushroom not cooked but needs to be pushed onto the stick then cut carefully so it don't fall into bits as it floats, i'v attached photo of mushrooms to give you the idea
Awesome, thanks for the tips! I will try one of those by the end of the weekend.
 
sinned4g63
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  • #69
Figured it was time for an update! In total I have 3 adult shrimp and 2 children. About 2-3 weeks ago one of them berried to my surprise thinking everyone was either male or female and they hatched within a week. I was able to count 26 shrimplets in total just on the glass walls of the tank. About 1 week ago I noticed another appeared to be berried and sure enough this weekend I was counting a new group of babies. It's difficult to tell at this time how many there are now in total between the 2 batches but I'm thinking upwards of 30-40. Stoked to see this happen but I'm not sure what the future holds for my newly crowded tank haha time to watch them grow.. Will post pictures later. Perhaps a video.
 
Ohio Mark
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Watching with interest... Beginner shrimper here -- have my first batch of shrimplets.
 
Marimo
  • #71
Also a beginning shrimp keeper here. Have had 10 neocaridina blue dreams for 2 mos. now. Had some mamas give birth about 3 weeks ago. I've only seen some little adultish shrimp. I know this sounds stupid, but I just can't see them! lol
 

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richiep
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Also a beginning shrimp keeper here. Have had 10 neocaridina blue dreams for 2 mos. now. Had some mamas give birth about 3 weeks ago. I've only seen some little adultish shrimp. I know this sounds stupid, but I just can't see them! lol
Babies are almost invisible to the naked eye so be patient when you do start seeing them things get easier, young will also hide for a week or so before venturing out, be very careful with water changes and check your bucket

Figured it was time for an update! In total I have 3 adult shrimp and 2 children. About 2-3 weeks ago one of them berried to my surprise thinking everyone was either male or female and they hatched within a week. I was able to count 26 shrimplets in total just on the glass walls of the tank. About 1 week ago I noticed another appeared to be berried and sure enough this weekend I was counting a new group of babies. It's difficult to tell at this time how many there are now in total between the 2 batches but I'm thinking upwards of 30-40. Stoked to see this happen but I'm not sure what the future holds for my newly crowded tank haha time to watch them grow.. Will post pictures later. Perhaps a video.
You must have had another berried as they won't hatch in a week the earliest I've read about was 18 days and the young you seen I'd say were from an earlier hatch maybe a week or so. I think there's more going on in your tank than you reslise
 
sinned4g63
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  • #73
richie.p as usual, I believe you are correct! Haha I usually stare at that bucket for a long minute before emptying it. I usually fill a cup and inspect that then dump it into a bucket and check again before I refill the tank. I'm not trying to toss anyone out!

Currently uploading a video for you all to skI'm through.. I can cou t roughly 40 shrimplets, 3 adults, and 2 adolescent. There are also 2 molts side by side in the tank. Heres some pictures while the video uploads.
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Video is ready!
 
richiep
  • #74
That's a lovely tank you've done there lots of cover and it looks nice and mature
 
sinned4g63
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  • #75
That's a lovely tank you've done there lots of cover and it looks nice and mature
Thank you! It is a little difficult to clean the tiny nooks and spaces but it's worth it when alls said and done and I can watch and enjoy. Unfortunately I don't think it will be big enough at this rate, I'll either have to upgrade or get a new tank soon! Haha

So I'm watching that video again myself and... I got a close up of the shrimp at the end because it's like my highest quality of the three with a nice solid deep red extending over most of the legs but.. does it look berried to anyone else? I see some fanning and looks like its holding.

I'm also really curious if anyone else could spot the new babies on the water lettuce in the very beginning? There's at least 2.
 
Ohio Mark
  • #76
It does look to me like she is berried, but I'm a novice, so I'm still learning.

I missed the babies! Must go back to look....
 

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sinned4g63
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  • #77
It does look to me like she is berried, but I'm a novice, so I'm still learning.

I missed the babies! Must go back to look....
Hey I missed it at first too, and while looking in person! But I'm pretty sure..

Let me know how many you count!
 
Ohio Mark
  • #78
I don't see any on the water lettuce. That is the floating plant, right?
 
sinned4g63
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  • #79
I don't see any on the water lettuce. That is the floating plant, right?
Yes. They are incredibly small. I may have to take a screen shot and circle them but they are there! Haha
 
Ohio Mark
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Yes. They are incredibly small. I may have to take a screen shot and circle them but they are there! Haha
I'm still missing them!
 
sinned4g63
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  • #81
I'm still missing them!
Easiest way to spot them is by the tiny black spots of their eyes. Or if you watch the video you can see their little legs moving ever so slightly. They are almost invisible.

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Ohio Mark
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Easiest way to spot them is by the tiny black spots of their eyes. Or if you watch the video you can see their little legs moving ever so slightly. They are almost invisible.
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Neat! Now I'm wondering how many actual shrimp I might have overlooked in my tank!
 
sinned4g63
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  • #83
Neat! Now I'm wondering how many actual shrimp I might have overlooked in my tank!
Yeah I can only imagine how many are hiding in my moss tree..
 
AJE
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Cool
 
sinned4g63
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  • #85
richiep
  • #86
It does look to me like she is berried, but I'm a novice, so I'm still learning.

I missed the babies! Must go back to look....
Your right she is berried it makes it a little more difficult for some to spot because of her deep red colour, if you look carefully there are quite a few young in there a lot still very clear and easy to miss, once you get your eye in you'll see a lot more
 
sinned4g63
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  • #87
I know I just posted a video yesterday but I came home to an awesome view I couldn't wait to share today. They are everywhere!
 
richiep
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I told you there was more going on in that tank than you realise, Ohio Mark I don't think you can miss these, they are a few months old, it's nice to see
 
Ohio Mark
  • #89
James Turner

I have been enjoying this thread.
 
sinned4g63
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  • #90
I told you there was more going on in that tank than you realise, Ohio Mark I don't think you can miss these, they are a few months old, it's nice to see
A few MONTHS?!

James Turner

I have been enjoying this thread.
Thank you! It has been a very exciting experience.
 

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