3 Fancy Goldfish In 40 Gal?

  1. MaxineB Initiate Member

    Hey guys so recently I decided that I would like to start a cichlid tank and currently have 3 fancy goldfish fry in a 29 gallon and wanted to put cichlids in a 40. But recently i got a 90 gallon tank that has been planned for my goldfish but now I was thinking about putting cichlids in the 90 instead and my fancies into the 40 but am not sure if that work any feed back will help. And if you guys and gals think that this is a good idea what type of cichlids should be put into the tank. Thanks a million also not sure if i posted this in the right place so apologies for this!
     
  2. Caitlin86 Well Known Member Member

    Yup u could do that. The rule is 20g for 1 fancy..10g for each thereafter
     

  3. JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    some may say 20g for 1 fancy and 10g for each additional and others say 30g for 1 fancy and 10g for each additional , I think it depends what fancy goldfish exactly for ex an oranda will get 8-9" while a ranchu will get 5-6" , would I put 3 orandas in a 40g no.. but I would put for ex 1 oranda , 1 ranchu and a lionhead.

    long story short what specie exactly are your fancies? but if you currently have 3 in a 29g then I would 100% take the 40g regardless of which fancy goldfish.



    also concerning your 90g what are you interested in large cichlids that get 10"+ or smaller? looking for something more along the peaceful lines?
     
  4. 2211Nighthawk Well Known Member Member

    It would work because of the 20/30g per fish +10g after but make sure you keep on top of filtration. You could have them in a 60g but if the filtration isn't enough it won't matter squat.
     

  5. BeanFish Well Known Member Member

    Yes you could. Just keep a good eye on parameters and probably add some plants like Pothos to help with nitrates.
    Jesse makes a good point tho, I guess it wouldnt work with certain species of fancy goldfish.
     
  6. Anders247 Fishlore Legend Member

    I personally would not, one at most. The 20 gallon for one and 10 for each additional rule is not good, in my opinion.
     
  7. MaxineB Initiate Member

    They are a black moore, lionhead, and ryukin. I would want them to be kinda aggressive and fun to watch, I want them i think to be 8-10 inches if possible maybe a little over would be fine I would also like the tank to always have something happening and from what i have read most cichlids are like that and colors i do really like the colorful ones. But if you uys could me the amount of fish as well it would be much appreciated thank you!!
     

  8. JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    you'll be fine , black moor only get 4-5" , lionhead only get 5-6" and ryukins would get the biggest at 6-7" but in a 40g it should be good. make sure filtration is good , depending if your using canister or HOB. canister aim for 6x the amount of gallons meaning 40g×5=240gal/h+ and with HOB aim for 10× so 400gal/h. I currently have 800gal/h running on my 65g fancy goldfish tank.


    also for the cichlids 90g stocking @tyguy7760 or @TexasDomer can really give you some good suggestions.

    for me I would do a nice severum or pair with some bottom dwellers such as corys or yoyo loaches and a large school of some sorta dither fish like lemon tetra, diamond tetra or preacox rainbow . I really do enjoy them, I have 1 in a 75g, they get pretty big 10-12".

    my 75g stocking is
    1 red spotted severum
    2 apisto triple red (male/female)
    8 Congo tetras
    10 black phantom tetra
    6 yoyo loaches
     
  9. Over It Well Known Member Member

    Don't mean to hijake this thread, but what about 3 Fantails in a 40 gal?
     
  10. JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    Fantails will get 6-7" each , I still think you'll be fine in a 40g cutting it close tho, Btw they are beautiful fancies imo I have an oranda fantail what a beauty!