3-4 male Guppies and 2 Nerites in a 5 gallon?

Itsme

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Can I keep 3-4 male Guppies and 2 Nerites in a 5gal?

If not,Thanks!
 

Ed204

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HI there,
IMO I don't think it will work. Even though guppies are small and tiny, They are very active and require a decent amount of swimming space, not to mention that they will produce a decent amount of bioload in your 5 gallon.

How about a betta instead? I think a single male betta should work fine with your 2 Nerite snails in the 5g
 
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Itsme

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  1. Ed204 said:
    HI there,
Ed204 said:
IMO I don't think it will work. Even though guppies are small and tiny, They are very active and require a decent amount of swimming space, not to mention that they will produce a decent amount of bioload in your 5 gallon.

How about a betta instead? I think a single male betta should work fine with your 2 Nerite snails in the 5g
Thanks,but I was planning on keeping them in a 5gal and in 3-6 months moving them to a community 20gal.Then later putting in a Betta.
 

Sepehr

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BernieBoo said:
Can I keep 3-4 male Guppies and 2 Nerites in a 5gal?

If not,Thanks!
Hello there!
Yes, You can but you have to move them to the 20gal soon.
Why do not you keep 2-3 Male Guppies and when you finally get the 20gal then you can add more
 

bgclarke

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I'd put no more than 2 guppies in a 5 gallon, but even that is iffy.

I have 4 in a 10 gallon and it's working very well.
When I had 5 or 6 in the 10 gallon, I had to change the water twice a week to keep the Nitrate levels safe for the fish.
 
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Itsme

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bgclarke said:
I'd put no more than 2 guppies in a 5 gallon, but even that is iffy.

I have 4 in a 10 gallon and it's working very well.
When I had 5 or 6 in the 10 gallon, I had to change the water twice a week to keep the Nitrate levels safe for the fish.
What about the snails?With weekly 25% water changes would I be able to slip in 3?I really want the tank to have as much movement as possible.

Thanks!

Sepehr said:
Hello there!
Yes, You can but you have to move them to the 20gal soon.
Why do not you keep 2-3 Male Guppies and when you finally get the 20gal then you can add more
Wdym?
 

Sepehr

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BernieBoo said:
I meant you can have 3-4 Male Guppies in 5 Gallon for a little while but you have to move them in the 20 gallon Sooner.

And Why do not you keep less than 3 Male guppies in 5 Gallon and add more when you get the 20 gallon?

Like bgclarke said you have to do water changes twice a week to make sure Nitrate levels stay safe for the fish
 
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Itsme

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Sepehr said:
I meant you can have 3-4 Male Guppies in 5 Gallon for a little while but you have to move them in the 20 gallon Sooner.

And Why do not you keep less than 3 Male guppies in 5 Gallon and add more when you get the 20 gallon?

Like bgclarke said you have to do water changes twice a week to make sure Nitrate levels stay safe for the fish
Thanks!
A 5gal guppy aquarium is all I have space for atm.It'll be a few months before I get my 20gal situated and I've really been interested in guppies lately

I also plan on keeping a few different species of live plants too,Marimo Moss Ball being the only one I can remember at the top of my head.Would these help my parameters?
 

bgclarke

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BernieBoo said:
What about the snails?With weekly 25% water changes would I be able to slip in 3?I really want the tank to have as much movement as possible.
I would do 50% water change.

You should be able to put a single nerite snail in it once it's been established for a while.

What filter are you planning on using on the tank?
 

BluMan1914

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I strongly suggest that you get the Betta instead of the Guppies for the 5 gallon. A Betta is more appropriate for a 5 gallon. Once you upgrade to the 20, then you should add the Guppies.
A word of caution on Bettas and Guppies. You will need to keep a very close eye on the Betta, because it is very possible that the Betta will bully the Guppies. And since male Guppies have colorful flowing fins, the Betta can may take the Guppies as a threat.
I'm sure other more experienced aquarist can give you better advice on that stocking.
Anders247, TexasDomer, what are your opinions?
 

AWheeler

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I would wait until you get your 20 gal up and running to get any guppies. If you want, you can put a betta in the 5 gal with a couple of snails. I wouldn't put guppies and bettas together....one will eventually get aggressive towards the other.
 
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Itsme

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APierce said:
I would wait until you get your 20 gal up and running to get any guppies. If you want, you can put a betta in the 5 gal with a couple of snails. I wouldn't put guppies and bettas together....one will eventually get aggressive towards the other.
Thanks!

bgclarke said:
I would do 50% water change.

You should be able to put a single nerite snail in it once it's been established for a while.

What filter are you planning on using on the tank?
I don't really know yet.I'm planning on getting a 5gal kit at Walmart for $27 that has an internal filter suited for 5-15gals.Or buying everything separately.If I do so I'll get a HOB filter suited for a 5-15gal,haven't decided yet.

So I'll be able to get 3 guppies and a snail if I do 50% water changes once a week?
 

BluMan1914

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BernieBoo said:
So I'll be able to get 3 guppies and a snail if I do 50% water changes once a week?
Again....it's not a good idea to put Guppies in a 5 gallon tank. Not saying you cant, but a 5 gallon is on the small size for them. Please consider getting a Betta, and wait to get the Guppies.
 

Nicholas04

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I think you could, but never forget to do water changes and check your parameters often
 

bgclarke

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BernieBoo said:
I don't really know yet.I'm planning on getting a 5gal kit at Walmart for $27 that has an internal filter suited for 5-15gals.Or buying everything separately.If I do so I'll get a HOB filter suited for a 5-15gal,haven't decided yet.

So I'll be able to get 3 guppies and a snail if I do 50% water changes once a week?
With a small tank like that with 3 guppies, so 50% twice a week.
That's what I was doing when I had 6 guppies in my 10 gallon.
 
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Itsme

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Thanks for the help!
 

TexasDomer

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I would also wait for the guppies until you get the bigger tank. Something may come up and prevent you from getting the bigger tank, and then you're stuck with fish in too small of a tank.
 
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Itsme

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How many guppies can I keep in a 5gal?
 

Bruxes and Bubbles

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Two at the max, in my opinion. One would be better. You'll need really good filtration. You'll want to go with male(s) or virgin female(s).
 

ChapouJunior

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Hmm... Honestly guppies need at least a 10 gallons. Even if they are small they are territorial and very active. I know it's not fun hearing that but yeah...

If you only have that and you reallly want guppies you could go with 3 MALES. Not recommended.

I don't think one guppy alone would be better, they are schooling fish.
 

Bruxes and Bubbles

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ChapouJunior said:
I don't think one guppy alone would be better, they are schooling fish.
They're not schooling fish. Social, yes, but not schooling. I had a male guppy with a big tail that was bullied and nipped by his 'friend' that I had in the tank with him. He was much happier and came out more when the 'friend' was removed. I've kept guppies in quantities of 10+ before all together. I have seen no difference in their behavior alone versus with others as long as they feel secure in their environment, which in a fish tank they should. No predators.
 
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Itsme

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ChapouJunior said:
Hmm... Honestly guppies need at least a 10 gallons. Even if they are small they are territorial and very active. I know it's not fun hearing that but yeah...

If you only have that and you reallly want guppies you could go with 3 MALES. Not recommended.
So you don't recommend 3males?
 

ChapouJunior

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Bruxes and Bubbles said:
They're not schooling fish. Social, yes, but not schooling. I had a male guppy with a big tail that was bullied and nipped by his 'friend' that I had in the tank with him. He was much happier and came out more when the 'friend' was removed. I've kept guppies in quantities of 10+ before all together. I have seen no difference in their behavior alone versus with others as long as they feel secure in their environment, which in a fish tank they should. No predators.
Hmm okay you might be right but I had 1 guppy before in my 20 gallons and he was so inactive, at the bottom, doing nothing while my other fishes were all active and water parameters perfect, then I added 4 guppies along with him and he's now the most active in the tank. I guess it depends on the personnality.
 
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Itsme

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Bruxes and Bubbles said:
They're not schooling fish. Social, yes, but not schooling. I had a male guppy with a big tail that was bullied and nipped by his 'friend' that I had in the tank with him. He was much happier and came out more when the 'friend' was removed. I've kept guppies in quantities of 10+ before all together. I have seen no difference in their behavior alone versus with others as long as they feel secure in their environment, which in a fish tank they should. No predators.
So how many do you recommend?
 

ChapouJunior

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BernieBoo said:
So you don't recommend 3males?
Sorry if I was unclear, I meant 3 males is fine, but in a 5 Gallons, not recommended, but honestly, give it a try, you never know!
 

Bruxes and Bubbles

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BernieBoo said:
So how many do you recommend?
In my opinion, a maximum of two due to their bio-load. Three would work if you're willing to do frequent water changes, though.
 

FishL:))

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BernieBoo said:
How many guppies can I keep in a 5gal?
Only about two max. Have you already bought the tank ? A 10-20 gallon( bigger better) would be great for Guppies. If you haven't already bought the guppies, a Betta would be fine in the 5 gallon.
 

_IceFyre_

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I think a 5 gallon is really too small for guppies, they are quite active and territorial and need quite a bit of swimming room for their size. As fish keepers, we should be providing our fish with the best environment possible, not the bare minimum
If you were going to get them, which I wouldn't advise, I would say 2 males max, maybe 3 if you are willing to keep up with 50% twice weekly water changes as mentioned above.
 

Al913

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Why don't you give endlers a try? Endlers are smaller yet still colorful! You could do 5-6 in a 5 gallon

As far as the guppies go I suggest getting 1-2 male guppies, sometimes guppies can be territorial or aggressive. I have 2 male guppies in a moderate-heavily planted 40 breeder and they still duel each other although there is no nipping . As mentioned guppies are really active but I would just do 1!
 

BeanFish

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A 5 gal is amazingly small, don't put an active fish like a guppy in there.
IMO.
 

_IceFyre_

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Al913 said:
Why don't you give endlers a try? Endlers are smaller yet still colorful! You could do 5-6 in a 5 gallon
I disagree with this, Endlers are extremely active and I would say they need at least 10 gallons minimum. I can never understand why people say that neons need at least 20 gallons while Endlers are okay in a 5 when they have virtually the same activity levels.
Just my opinion, I agree with the rest of your post
 

FishL:))

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IceFyre1414 said:
I disagree with this, Endlers are extremely active and I would say they need at least 10 gallons minimum. I can never understand why people say that neons need at least 20 gallons while Endlers are okay in a 5 when they have virtually the same activity levels.
Just my opinion, I agree with the rest of your post
Both guppies and endlers could live in there,but they wouldn't be happy, probably be stressed in the tight area, and probably might not live a healthy life they should. IMO
 

MikeRad89

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3-4 males easily.
 

Anders247

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I agree with BluMan1914.
 

Al913

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IceFyre1414 said:
I disagree with this, Endlers are extremely active and I would say they need at least 10 gallons minimum. I can never understand why people say that neons need at least 20 gallons while Endlers are okay in a 5 when they have virtually the same activity levels.
Just my opinion, I agree with the rest of your post
Oh, didn't realize this! LOL, now my views have change and won't be recommending them for 5 gallons however won't 1 work?
 

TexasDomer

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Al913 said:
Oh, didn't realize this! LOL, now my views have change and won't be recommending them for 5 gallons however won't 1 work?
Are you asking about one endler in a 5 gal? Why would you want to do that? Seems unfair to keep a social fish singly.
 

ashenwelt

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Personally 2-3 male endlers are a good pick for Endlers in a five. However these are social and inquisitive. Please give them stuff to look at... They never stop.

In comparison to neons... Neons swim all over. Endlers nose in and check things out. Very different personality.
 

BeanFish

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So... I am sadistic for putting dwarf corydoras in a 10 gal but it is not crazy to put Guppies or endlers in a 5 gal?
I'm confused.
 

ashenwelt

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BeanFish said:
So... I am sadistic for putting dwarf corydoras in a 10 gal but it is not crazy to put Guppies or endlers in a 5 gal?
I'm confused.
LOL. Well... I wouldn't do the guppies in a 5. Endlers, I actually HAVE in a 5.
 

Bettanewb

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I have 2 endlers in a 10 and I feel like they don't have room.
 

ashenwelt

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Bettanewb said:
I have 2 endlers in a 10 and I feel like they don't have room.
Do they have things to do and interest them? They need stuff to look at.
 

Lindsay83

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JMO, and I'm probably not going to be popular here, but I wouldn't have any fish in less than a 10 gallon, unless it's for quarantine reasons.
 

ashenwelt

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Lindsay83 said:
JMO, and I'm probably not going to be popular here, but I wouldn't have any fish in less than a 10 gallon, unless it's for quarantine reasons.
That's fine. Obviously I disagree, but going larger is never a negative impact on the fish.
 

Bettanewb

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They do for sure but it's just me thinking they don't have enough room. They are very active fish.
My original endler was in my 20 long but was very territorial with my cardinal tetras and 2 of my guppies were agressice with him so he ended up being moved to my 10 gallon. So I guess it comes down to me feeling bad for putting him in a smaller space.

Edit I would never recommend endlers or guppies in a 5 gallon
 

BeanFish

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I agree, the bioload thing is kind of rubbish, the aquarium is simply small for the fish.
 
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Itsme

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ChapouJunior said:
Sorry if I was unclear, I meant 3 males is fine, but in a 5 Gallons, not recommended, but honestly, give it a try, you never know!
Thanks!
 

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