29 Gallon Planted Tank

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Hello. This will be my first post ever on this site, although I've been using this website for probably a year now. Anyways, I'm in the process of setting up a 29 gallon planted tank (30x12x18). I understand I should only stock using the footprint size for oxygen and co2 exchange, but I was hoping to stock a little more. Don't worry, I'll keep up with water conditions. Here's my current list of fish I plan to have:
-8 cardinal tetras
-4 serpae tetras
-4 black phantom tetras
-5 otocinclus (too many?)
-2 halfbeaks (any input on their compatibility with the other fish?)
I honestly don't know if this would be too high of a stock. If so, what would you recommend changing? If not, could I add anymore? Any other comments or input? Thanks in advance for all the help!
 

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Not too sure on the halfbeaks, to be honest. The rest seems fine to me. I don't see any issues.
 

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Tetras are schooling fish and they should really be a minimum of 6. I'd even recommend 10 per school for their sake (as well as for a better looking schooling behavior).
 

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Half beaks don't bother anyone. They stay at the top level 99% of the time.
 

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Tetras are schooling fish and they should really be a minimum of 6. I'd even recommend 10 per school for their sake (as well as for a better looking schooling behavior).
I agree that tetras should be kept in at least 6, but 10 isn't quite necessary. I have 5 glo-tetras and they school just fine. In fact they look really good and have adopted a DG into their school. It is quite amazing & unusual (I have plans to add 3 more black skirts soon, btw)

@TexasDomer @Anders247 @BottomDweller any opinions?
 
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Interesting about the Tetras adopting the DG into the school. All of my DGs have either been shy or territorial.
 

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Interesting about the Tetras adopting the DG into the school. All of my DGs have either been shy or territorial.
It is sooo cool to watch. They were together in a 10 gallon since January. I just moved them all into a 29 gallon on Wednesday (4 days ago) and since then they have been acting like one school of fish. Otto (the DG) will go off for a few seconds then comes back to the school. This happens over and over. I didn't believe it at first, but it certainly looks like he's schooling with them. Now once I get a few more fish, that may change, but for now, it's very entertaining.
 

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Thanks for all the quick replies. Would adding a few more of the tetras hurt? What would you say would be the limit for each tetra school? Eight seepage tetras and eight black phantom tetras too much? Nothing's set in stone fortunately.
 

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Have you looked into rummy nose or bloodfin tetras?

Oh btw if yes interested in half beaks they're livebearers and the males will pester the females to breed nonstop. I have 1 male with 2 females and thinking of adding 1 more female.
 
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I have looked into rummy nose tetras. I thought about doing those but I didn't think I would have enough space for a decent number of them. You think I could fit some rummy nose tetras in there too? And I've heard some things about the genders of halfbeaks, I'll research some more about that before I get them.
 

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Hello. This will be my first post ever on this site, although I've been using this website for probably a year now. Anyways, I'm in the process of setting up a 29 gallon planted tank (30x12x18). I understand I should only stock using the footprint size for oxygen and co2 exchange, but I was hoping to stock a little more. Don't worry, I'll keep up with water conditions. Here's my current list of fish I plan to have:
-8 cardinal tetras
-4 serpae tetras
-4 black phantom tetras
-5 otocinclus (too many?)
-2 halfbeaks (any input on their compatibility with the other fish?)
I honestly don't know if this would be too high of a stock. If so, what would you recommend changing? If not, could I add anymore? Any other comments or input? Thanks in advance for all the help!
Welcome to fishlore!
Take either the black phantoms or serpaes off the list and up the group you keep to 8.
 

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The wrestling halfbeak stays small and that's what I have. The males have orange on their analfin and females just have clear fins.
 

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Welcome to fishlore!
Take either the black phantoms or serpaes off the list and up the group you keep to 8.
I thought that the serpaes and black phantoms might shoal (if that's the right word) together because they are very similar tetras. Do you think they might? If not I'll take off the black phantom tetras.

The wrestling halfbeak stays small and that's what I have. The males have orange on their analfin and females just have clear fins.
So they would be okay with the tetras?
 
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So they would be okay with the tetras?
Yes. Btw for the phantom and serpae tetras they would shoal seldomly but mostly keep to themselves. I had groups of 7 before and I thought of the same thing. Guess I was wrong. Lol.
 

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Yes. Btw for the phantom and serpae tetras they would shoal seldomly but mostly keep to themselves. I had groups of 7 before and I thought of the same thing. Guess I was wrong. Lol.
Lol! thanks for the input. Guess I'll take off the black phantoms and add some more serpaes. If I added any rummy noses would that be too much?
 

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If you're still getting cardinals then yes. Honestly I would just choose one schooling fish. Serpae tetras given the right food and water quality will look stunning. But it's up to you.
 

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They are both different species, so they don't school together.
Guess I'll keep that in mind. I've read that some tetras with similar physical traits may stay together more than with others, but I guess not so much. This is my revised list:
-8 carfinal tetras
-8 serpae tetras
-5 otocinclus
And I'm assuming no rummy nose tetras because as someone previously noted, which I agree with, adding a healthy number of those would be too much.

Guess I'll keep that in mind. I've read that some tetras with similar physical traits may stay together more than with others, but I guess not so much. This is my revised list:
-8 carfinal tetras
-8 serpae tetras
-5 otocinclus
And I'm assuming no rummy nose tetras because as someone previously noted, which I agree with, adding a healthy number of those would be too much.
Oh and 2 wrestling halfbeaks
 
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Yeah, different tetra species should be kept in their own groups.
Different color variants of the same species are the ones that will school together.
 
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