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Without knowing the aggression of the rainbow cichlid I think it may be a possibility! I hope you cam figure something out.

Maybe someone else knows about keeping EB acara on its own with a pair of severums. Tbh, this is getting out of my knowledge! Sorry

I wanted to change my 120 gallon tank up to more aggressive bigger cichlids, but stuck with angelfish and rams.
 
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I don't blame you! I still don't know too much about cichlids!

Ok could I have like 10 cichlids total? More? Less?

Most small ones except for the severums
 
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Depending on the cichlid sure 10 could work but they would have to be small. Like 5 Bolivian Rams and 5 bandits. But if you want severums then no. If you want a group of cichlids then that's going to limit you on the number of others. If you want a group like geos then maybe 1 sev and 1 acara is all you can do as far as other cichlids with any degree of confidence it will work
 
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Ok so how about this:
1 Severum
1 Blue Acara
5 Geophagus
1 Blood Parrot maybe
 
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I wouldn't do a parrot unless you trade out the sev or the acara. Also you need to be specific about which Geo. All geos will not work. I would stick to tapajos or bandits. Bolivian Rams would work as well
 
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Ugh, I don't wanna ask for more stocking lists!! I've already gotten so many!!!!!
Ok do you guys know of cichlids I could have more of? I know Africans are cool, but they are not exactly community fish........

Or in other words, mixed cichlids I could have lots of?
 
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You are asking for something that's difficult with cichlids. Cichlids need territory. They aren't tetras.

Perhaps you would be happier with a mbuna cichlid tank. In a 5 foot tank you could probably do 4 or maybe 5 species and do a bunch of each. These are Africans but with them you would not be able to do anything else other than cichlids as they are far too aggressive for most other fish.

Unfortunately my knowledge of mbuna is limited so I would encourage you to find someone that knows them well
 
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Ok shifting gears a little bit... What south American etc fish would look cool with the cichlids?
 
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Yes! I love cories! I will probably have a mix of bronze and albino.
As for tetras I do like the bigger ones, any tetras you recommend?
 
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What are lemon tetras? Dont think that I've ever heard of them! As for the Diamond they are kind of like the bleeding heart tetras
 
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Have you thought about getting lots of assorted cichlids?
 
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Diamonds have more glimmer abd the makes have long showy finnage
 
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Lots of assorted cichlids? Like Africans?
 
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Fishkeeping With Andy said:
Lots of assorted cichlids? Like Africans?
Yes
 
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Ok, so Africans I can't really do a community, what kinds are good for beginners?
 
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Fishkeeping With Andy said:
Ok, so Africans I can't really do a community, what kinds are good for beginners?
You can do a community of African cichlids. like 140
 
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Hmm, so should I stick to one region? Or could I combine the ones from MalawI and Tanganyika?
 
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chromedome52 I don't know much about the MalawI or Tanganyika ValerieAdams bizaliz3
 
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Fishkeeping With Andy said:
Lots of assorted cichlids? Like Africans?
The ones I would want would have in your tank would be the maingano cichlids, butterikoferi, venustus, demansoni, and or frontosa (mainganos are my favorites). But has anyone considered that these probably wouldn’t work with the tetras? If you wanted both, you could divide the tank and one section could be for smaller peaceful fish for nano tanks like the tetras and cories, and the other could be for cichlids.
 
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That seems cool, I've just never seemed to be fond of divided tanks,
 
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East African/Rift Lake Cichlids do not mix with any kind of Tetra. Mixing Tangs and Malawians is usually a bad idea. Most Tanganyikan Cichlids are less frenetic than the Malawian species. They get stressed by all the activity. The Tangs that are frenetic, such as Tropheus, are best kept in single species colonies.

ButtikoferI is a West African species, and does not go well with any East African species. Putting Fronts with any Malawian is generally a bad idea, for the reasons stated above.

I think you're better off looking at SA Cichlids, many of which are considerably less violent than the Africans.
 
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Yea, that's what I was thinking to begin with, I just would like to have as many as possible,
 
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chromedome52 I don't know much about the MalawI or Tanganyika ValerieAdams bizaliz3
I got nothing as far as cichlids go, sorry
 
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I know you've been all over with stocking options, but I was just thinking....
If you did SA cichlids and you want lots of kinds of types, that it would be best to leave the school of geos out.
Then, could the OP add more kinds of types of cichlids in a 120g?

Could the OP do large tetras like diamond, hy511, Columbian, bleeding heart with 1-2 severum, 1-2 EB acara? Any other cichlids fit this? Any other dithers? I'm not sure of cories, but I think an adult BN pleco would be ok.

I'm actually just curious about what I wrote. I've seen all those less aggressive cichlids with large tetras, but I'm curious about thoughts here.

Fishkeeping With Andy What is your source water hardness?

South American cichlids typically like softwater and african cichlids like hardwater. Do you want to be altering parameters for water changes? Either adding minerals in, or using RO to dilute? If not, I suggest you get the fish that would do well in your tap water's hardness as it is.

For ex. my kh and gh out of the tap is 2 degrees. That's why I went with SA cichlids over African. I love them all, but didn't want to be changing water params.

Adding minerals is easier than using RO, Sometimes even a substrate of shell van be enough to keep the pH where African cichlids like it. But with all the waste from big robust fish and heavy breathing and all the water you'd have to change out to keep nitrogen cycle biproducts at bay would likely have to be adjusted if it's soft like mine! Just something to consider.
 
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My source water hardness is about 6.5
 
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Fishkeeping With Andy said:
My source water hardness is about 6.5
6.5 pH? Do you know what your kh and gh are at from the tap? I would go for whatever cichlids would thrive in your tap water levels. South American cichilds like softwater while African cichlids like the pH at ~8.3
 
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I don't know how to test those, and I think south American would work? Correct me if I'm wrong
Thanks for all your help!
 
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A pH of 6.5 out of the tap is unlikely, but if your water is soft, then yes, SA sounds right.
 
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Ya our water is pretty soft,
 
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Then unless you want to add minerals, SA cichlids would fit your water as it is. That's why I went with SA as well. Just helping you decide what type to keep
 
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Definitely stick with sa cichlids. Your water is probably to sift for Africans abd most of the centrals
 
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Alright. For the tank, I was wanting severums? Do you know what will go well with those?
 
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EB Acara! 2 and 2
 
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So 2 Severums, and 2 EB Acaras, what would go with those?
 
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Or 2 severum and 4 EB acara?

I'm pretty sure two schools of adult large deep tetras could work. Diamond, hy511, Columbian, rosey.

An adult BN pleco?
 
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Fishkeeping With Andy said:
Ok, I was planning on having a 75 gallon tank, but I just found an amazing deal on a 120 gallon! And my parents are letting me get it! So I was wondering about stocking, I want it to be a community tank. Here are the stats:

Tank: 60 in by 18 in by 24 in

Substrate: Sand

Planted? Yes but no CO2 want low maintenance.

What do you guys suggest?
TIA, Andy
There is so much you can do with a 120g. I have a 75 gallon planted (none co2) community tank (Ehiem 2217 & 2275 filters) with 6x BosemanI Rainbows, 5x Roseline sharks (Denison Barbs), 5x Columbian & 2x Black Skirt Tetras, Lg Clown Loach, and a L067 Pleco. This tank gives me much enjoyment...But... I fell in love with Tanganyikans. The personality of these africans are exceptional. Although some do get large, most of the ones I picked do not get over 5" and are slow growing. The PH is buffered to around 9.0 with hard water. I have had these Africans in a 46g bow for about 2 years. After decades of fish keeping I have found the Africans to be very interesting and interactive. There are challenges when dealing with the personalities of these fish, but I believe they are the easiest of the Rift lake Cichlids. Currently I have 2x Frontosa, 1 x Blue MooriI (Dolphin), 1x J. Transcriptus, 1x Auratus, 1x Featherfin Synod., and 2x orange Leleupi. I realize as some these fish will need to be moved to a larger tank, but for now they "get along" fairly well given they have their own "space". I realize that it is not a pure Tanganyikan tank. Good luck with your 125g. Heck you could even have room to set up a section for some "Shellies". I always treat my tanks as if it is a house or an apartment with various tenants who have to at least get along in the common areas. You probably have made your choice by now. Oops...Just read your current stock. Not compatible with Africans but my previous community suggestions would be a good place to start. Have IMG_4863a.jpg IMG_5032-2.JPGIMG_5420.JPG
 
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