10 gallon tank

atmmachine816
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Hey this is more for Mike but I would like to make a 10 gallon Saltwater tank. Is this possible and how much would it cost. Also do you think I could more or less just stock it with invertebrates like shrimp, crabs, snails and maybe one small fish.

Thanks

Austin
 
fish_r_friend
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you could put dwarf sea horeses in it if your up to it
 
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atmmachine816
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Naw I perfer invertebrates in smaller tanks
 
fish_r_friend
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Dwaf sea horses don't get huge the small 1.5 in fish you could get about 20 at most
 
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atmmachine816
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SW fish aren't like Freshwater fish and the same rules don't apply since they are a lot more sensitive to water quality that's why large Saltwater tanks don't have tons of fish in them like Freshwater tanks
 
Jon
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I would definitely not reccomend a 10 gallon tank... usually saltwater minimum is 29G but if your set on doing it you might be able to get away with it...

I woudl definitely not recommend getting sea horses because from what I hear they are HELLA hard to take care of.

the other problem is you might run into trouble getting supplies for such a small Saltwater tank...

Cost is dependent on the type of setup you want

The 3 types ive heard of most are fish only, fish only w/ live rock, reef. Reefs are expensive because the lighting necessary is very intense. if you want liverock the liverock for a 10 gallon would be about $50. If you wanted fish/inverts only you could go cheaper. The sand could be expensive and depending on the type of filtration you use it could get very high priced... the prices for equipment vary so much... on the 125 I'm working on settin up I have seen price ranges from $5,000 to 1400$ to get all of the equipment to set it up... there is so much variance you really can't set a price... look around but I reccomend going bigger if you want SW
 
Jon
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on second thought you could do a 10 if you are really dedicated to it... but know what you are getting into the smaller the harder...

look at this amazing 12 gallon... I had no idea how pretty such a small tank could be



That's one Farking pretty tank... O_O I could stare at it for hours

OMG I found a 7 gallon that's hella tight look at this!!!
 
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atmmachine816
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Well its the biggest I can get and I am doing my research and as long as I can convince my parents onletting me giet it I am getting one. some way or another
 
Jon
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lol... that seems kinda small for the sake of small... I would reccomend getting a larger one if you can or possibly putting it off until you can... you wil be SOOO limited in what you can put in it if you use a 10G tank but if you are determined its very possible and pretty expensive.
 
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atmmachine816
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Well if I waited that would be until I got my own place and I have moved out of the house=8+years so I think if I can get 10 I will.

Austin
 
Jon
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ouch...

darn well if you want to do the 10 ive been researchin for a while and its definitely possible... GL but you won't be able to keep many if any fish... there are some cool inverts though... what do you like more? cool shapes? big? or colorful? what type of fish / inverts do you like?
 
Marc
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Yeah, you'd be pretty limited. You'd have to go with the hardy but small fish and that severely limits you. Since it's a 10gal it would fluctuate ALOT in comparison to a normal sized or bigger tank.
 
Benjamin
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atmmachine816 said:
Hey, thanks for the complement. I didn't know about this site until I looked at my website logs and found the link from here. That tank ended up being up and running for about six months before I had to take it down. I switched jobs and had to remove it rather quickly. I ended up cracking the bottom somehow during the move and have not gotten around to drilling a new tank yet. While the 2.5 gallon display area is small, I wanted something that would not be overpowering in size relative to everything else in my office, and, my bosses being bi-polar on a good day, I wanted something I could move quickly in the event I needed to. I also didn't want to maintain it over long weekends or on vacation, so it was another reason to not have any fish in it.

Right now I am working on a 1.25 gallon nano cube. You are right, it is small just for the sake of being small. It is not at all less maintenance, just about the same as larger tanks, but fun to do for maybe one or two corals. I am planning to light it with high power LED's. I have already built the power supply and controller and will hopefully get some time this week to mount the lights to the PC board and give it all a try. I will keep you posted.
 
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Mike
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A 10 saltwater tank is definitely possible but, like others have already mentioned, can be more work than a larger tank.  You'll need to test the water parameters on a regular basis and plan on more water changes

Just some guestimates:

10 gallon tank - $30
Powerhead - $20
Live Rock - $50 - $75
Protein Skimmer - $70 - $100
Power filter - $20
Hood and Light - $30
The tank is going to one of the less expensive purchases. You could spend $30 bucks more and get a 30 gallon.

This type of tank would only be able to have a very small fish and a couple of invertebrates.  Definitely no corals, unless you upgrade to power compacts or higher.

Benjamin - great lookin tank.
 
Miss Mouse
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I've read you can turn a biorb into a marine tank...
I'm rather tempted but worry about whether it's gonna be really hard work? I do a lot on my tanks already so I don't mind the extra work and I'm closing down a little freshwater tropical but I don't know much about salt water etc
Any opinions would be appreciated!

miss Mouse
 
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Mike
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I think if you stay on top of the regular water changes (10 - 20% every couple of weeks) and keep it very lightly stocked it wouldn't be very difficult at all. Be sure to get about 10 pounds of live rock, a rotating powerhead to keep the surface agitated and a skimmer.

https://www.fishlore.com/live_rock.htm
 
Butterfly
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A Bio-orb is about eight gallons right? and enclosed?, Sooo... where would you put all that equipment?
Carol
 
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Mike
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Good point butterfly - You wouldn't be able to use the skimmer and powerhead in the biorb, so I wouldn't use one for a saltwater setup.
 
flameangelfan
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Hey all, wanted to put my 2 cents in. I have been doing Saltwater for a long time, but am realtively new to FW. Nano-Reefs are kind of my specialty. So I wanted to give you my top 5 pieces of advice for a Nano Saltwater tank.
1) OVERFILTER - My prized tank was a 15 gal with a 30 gal Bio-Wheel filter, 50 gal. protien skimmer, and 18 lbs live rock.
2) CHANGE THE WATER! - I changed 25% of the water every 7 days and had a 5 gal. bucket of mixed Saltwater that was at least 5 days old.
3) LIVE ROCK ROCKS - Sacrifice as much space as you are willing to stock live rock. Remember, you can always take some out, but introducing more WILL mess with your nitrogen cycle.
4) BE EXTREMELY CHOOSY WITH FISH SELECTION - Every fish you put in the tank will affect your choices later. Knowing your choices ahead of time will save you time and money.
5) MOVE SLOW - Everything you wait for in FW, wait twice as long for in SW.

So, that's my advice... let us know how everything goes!
 
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atmmachine816
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I'm back to considering this idea again so all the help is appreciated, I'm planning well in advance so when I do a trip to lfs in two months I can see if I can find all the equipment I need.

First thing, I need a ten gallon tank and hood. Can I use a regular light bulb or what do I need?
 
Tumbleweed
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atmmachine816 said:
I'm back to considering this idea again so all the help is appreciated, I'm planning well in advance so when I do a trip to lfs in two months I can see if I  can find all the equipment I need.

First thing, I need a ten gallon tank and hood.  Can I use a regular light bulb or what do I need?
What kind of tank do you want to have. If it is just a fish tank then yes a regular light will be fine. The only time you need to worry about that lights is if you are going to have coral or live rock.
 
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atmmachine816
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O I think from before it's going to be just live rock, few inverts and a few fish if that. Nobody said what type of light to get and I have no idea.
 
Tumbleweed
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With live rock you can have any light it will live, but if you want it to grow the multicolor algae on it you will need to have compact fluorescent light to achieve this. These lights can get expensive, but check there are some retrofit kits out there that will convert fluorescent to compact and the price is not too bad.
 
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atmmachine816
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Would maybe two of those over a 10 gallon work pretty well?
 
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atmmachine816
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More research done with help of some other people so far I need a powerhead with at LEAST 100gph with 30lbs of live rock or so, regular strip light is adequate but brighter a T8 would be better. Don't need protein skimmer. O what else....? Sound good?
 
Tumbleweed
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atmmachine816 said:
More research done with help of some other people so far I need a powerhead with at LEAST 100gph with 30lbs of live rock or so, regular strip light is adequate but brighter a T8 would be better.  Don't need protein skimmer.  O what else....?  Sound good?
30lbs of live rock is too much. the rule usually is 1.29lbs. of rock per gallon. So you should get about 10-13lbs. of rock for the tank. Be carefull about 100gph for a 10gal tank. depending on what else you are puting in the tank ie soft coral or mushrooms they do not like high current.
 
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atmmachine816
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Ok this is what I need to know, as this is what I have read as basic rules for nanos. So 13lbs. or so of live rock. Soft coral and mushrooms do they come on live rock or do you buy them separately.
 
Tumbleweed
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you buy them seperatly they come in many verities and colors. They tend to like slower moving currents look around 4-5 times the tank size in water flow.
 
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atmmachine816
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O so are they just a type of thing to add if you like them?
 
Tumbleweed
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yes, they are the plants of the salt water world
 
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atmmachine816
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O ok are there fast moving loving things too then?
 
Tumbleweed
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Hard Corals can live in a stronger current, but then you will need a different light setup, anda proteinscimmer. It is a bit much for a 10gal tank
 
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atmmachine816
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Soft corals attach to LR right? same with mushrooms, any other plants that I could get?
 
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atmmachine816
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I might be getting a 55 gallon now it's sweet if I could, gota convince my dad.
 
Tumbleweed
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The 55gal would be sweet. You would have a lot more options on what you can do with a tank that size.
 
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atmmachine816
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Nevermind my mom thinks it's huge and won't let me explain it's not that big. She wo'nt let me talk to her about it but she says I can get a 10 though i'm goning to try and get a 20 long.
 
DreamCatcher1987
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well if this is anything, I had a black yellowtail damsel in a 5 gallon for over 8 years and he did just fine, he has been given to a friend of mine who has him in a 10 gal now, but he did great in the tank
 
occlown426
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Hate to say it but your mom is right. The 55 would be better for a beginner because the fluctuations aren't so bad. I was considering the 55 and even a 90 myself but the cost was at the least $1200 not including live rock saltwater fish etc. This isn't a cheap hobby to get into, you need to make sure your parents know about this. A crashed tank is expensive to repleace. But who knows you may rock at it.
 

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