10 gallon profit tank - snails

Shrimp42
  • #1
This all started because I thought that it'd be nice to breed mystery snails so when my QT tank is empty I can have a couple in there to keep it cycled. I would like to make profit, or at least make money out of it, but I'm fine if I don't. I have a spare 10 gallon, heater, and a top fin filter. I would like to keep this tank bare bottom. My current budget is $80, but I'm selling some things that I don't need to make more.
Things I would buy for it
Sponge filter (could use the air pump for QT)
●A decent light that can grow the plant I need (something easy and fast growing that can float)
●Glass canopy lid.
●A plant fertilizer that's an all in one and decently cheap.

I'm ordering some dwarf panda guppies from SanDiegoRedneck once weather gets warmer here, so that would be the fish I'd be breeding. Then the mystery snails as well. I have hard water so it works out for both the guppies and snails.

So here's my questions.
1. What's the best free-floating plant that grows decently fast and provides cover for fry? I've heard guppy grass is good.
2. What would I feed the snails? I have algae wafers, would that be sufficient?
3. How low do I keep the water level for the snails?
4. Where could I sell the fish/snails? I have a LFS, so I'll ask them if they would buy some.
5. Any recommendations?

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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The2dCour
  • #2
The mystery snails will appreciate a well rounded diet (do your algae wafers have meat in them too?) Duckweed is freeish if you can tolerate it and the snails will eat it, guppy grass can probably grow along side it. You may not need to dose any ferts with all those snails and fish pooping.
 

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Shrimp42
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
The mystery snails will appreciate a well rounded diet (do your algae wafers have meat in them too?) Duckweed is freeish if you can tolerate it and the snails will eat it, guppy grass can probably grow along side it. You may not need to dose any ferts with all those snails and fish pooping.
I dont know, I have Hikari and tetra algae wafers. I also have freeze dried bloodworms, spirulina flakes, tetra flakes, and serra nip tabs. What would be a good meat supplement? Didn't think of duckweed, that'd be nice to provide cover and suck up some nitrates.
 
The2dCour
  • #4
I dont know, I have Hikari and tetra algae wafers. I also have freeze dried bloodworms, spirulina flakes, tetra flakes, and serra nip tabs. What would be a good meat supplement? Didn't think of duckweed, that'd be nice to provide cover and suck up some nitrates.
I use the Hikari sinking wafers with spirulina silkworm and krill. There's nothing in any of my tanks that doesn't eat them, shrimps steal em, barbs chase em, heck one of my mystery snails dragged a wafer up the side of the glass away from the fish. The snails will eat everything you listed though, including whatever bloodworms scraps they can wrangle up. When I had only 3 or 4 snurlies they would eat more of the duckweed than the wafers.
 
SanDiegoRedneck
  • #5
Most algae wafers have protein, just check back of the package.

Guppy grass, octopus plant, red root floaters, dwarf water lettuce.

I personally use easy green from aquarium co OP for plant food but other good options

Also I dont run heaters on my guppy tanks. They range from high 60's to low 80's over year

Remember the dwarf panda breed pretty true but not perfect. I pulled 2 yellow and an Asian blau guppy from panda tank last week.

So yes you can colony breed but you need a mutt tank.

Takes about 6weeks or 2mo for Fry to grow to sellable size for trios. So I dont know how many trios you plan to start with but that tank will be super full super fast.

I know on budget (i definitely feel ya on that) but honestly you need 3 10gal minimum. 1 breeding, 1 cull and 1 grow out

If you only have one 10 gal tank another option for breeding for profit is cherry shrimp. I have had maybe 600 in a 10gal


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Shrimp42
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
Most algae wafers have protein, just check back of the package.

Guppy grass, octopus plant, red root floaters, dwarf water lettuce.

I personally use easy green from aquarium co OP for plant food but other good options

Remember the dwarf panda breed pretty true but not perfect. I pulled 2 yellow and an Asian blau guppy from panda tank last week.

So yes you can colony breed but you need a mutt tank.

Takes about 6weeks or 2mo for Fry to grow to sellable size for trios. So I dont know how many trios you plan to start with but that tank will be super full super fast.

I know on budget (i definitely feel ya on that) but honestly you need 3 10gal minimum. 1 breeding, 1 cull and 1 grow out

If you only have one 10 gal tank another option for breeding for profit is cherry shrimp. I have had maybe 600 in a 10gal before
Thanks. Octopus plant looks like another good idea. I understand the breeding part, I have another 10 gallon QT already up that won't be used for a while, and my main 29 gallon will be where I put the culls (my 29 gallon is a mut guppy/platy tank). If I get too many culls I'll just give them to the LFS for free if they don't want to buy them. Water changes will be pretty frequent too, I'd say 2-4 50% a week if it gets heavily stocked and the plants aren't consuming a lot of nitrates. If this doesnt work then I'll setup another tank, even if it's just a plastic tote with a filter and heater.
 
SanDiegoRedneck
  • #7
Thanks. Octopus plant looks like another good idea. I understand the breeding part, I have another 10 gallon QT already up that won't be used for a while, and my main 29 gallon will be where I put the culls (my 29 gallon is a must guppy/platy tank). If I get too many culls I'll just give them to the LFS for free if they don't want to buy them. Water changes will be pretty frequent too, I'd say 2-4 50% a week if it gets heavily stocked and the plants aren't consuming a lot of nitrates. If this doesnt work then I'll setup another tank, even if it's just a plastic tote with a filter and heater.
Java moss is amazing for guppies, my only problem with it is I have and allow some algae to grow in tanks (very beneficial for guppies to pack at). The java moss gets consumed by algae quickly. I've noticed the guppy grass and octopus plants give resting place for mommies and fry, and dont get overwhelmed by algae as easy as java moss

Also note my dwarf pandas like the bottom more than my other guppies so dont be surprised if they hide in bottom unlike other guppies.
 

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