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Old November 15th, 2007  
Fish Newbie
 
Hello

Hi guys! Im new to the forums and im really glad that i found em this seems like a pretty nice place. I've grown up around fish my whole life im currently 17 and my girl friend and i have decided to start a saltwater reef aquarium at her house. I was wondering if you guys have any suggestions for some tough fish that could stand up to a newly setup tank. I've been told that Damsels and Clown fish are good for the job is this true?
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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Hello and Welcome to FishLore
Ok, what size tank are you setting up ? are you going to run a sump?
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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welcome to FishLore!
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Old November 16th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
i personally think it is a bad idea to "share" such an expensive setup with a girlfriend. your 17 man and chances are you guys wont be together forever like planned ive "shared" before and ended up paying for most of it and never seeing it again
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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Hi Shamrok - welcome to FishLore.

Many of the damselfishes are rather hardy, but they can also be quite belligerent with their tankmates (including those of the same species). Clowns can be good in fully cycled tanks. Look into letting live rock cycle the tank and not the fish.
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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Welcome. You've come to the right place.

I'm sorry to say but I'd kinda have to agree with Wolfgang8810. A reef is a VERY expensive operation both to set up and to maintain. It could be thousands when you add it all up depending on the size of your tank and set up.
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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i personally think it is a bad idea to "share" such an expensive setup with a girlfriend. your 17 man and chances are you guys wont be together forever like planned ive "shared" before and ended up paying for most of it and never seeing it again
OK I know I may get in trouble for this.. I to have lost $ due to a marrage brake down. But I beleave every one has a soul mate, and we should live for today, plan for tomorrow and love the one we are with. I wish you all the best Shamrok's. Nobody knows what the future holds for any of us. BUT DONT LET THAT STOP YOU LIVING LIFE!
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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Dude.. I was 17 once, a long time ago.. back then the only thing I would've wanted to hear is " Do your thing!".. so do your thing and BTW, welcome to Fishlore.
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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its really hers im just helping out shes paying for it all... Its a 12 gallon tank... u say live rock is better for cycling? ill prolly get a damsel or two they are only 4 bucks and maybe a live rock its kinda cheap... just lookin to get something in their to get it goin at first. we prolly wont spend to much on as long as its colorful and the fish are healthy we will be happy...
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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its really hers im just helping out shes paying for it all... Its a 12 gallon tank... u say live rock is better for cycling? ill prolly get a damsel or two they are only 4 bucks and maybe a live rock its kinda cheap... just lookin to get something in their to get it goin at first. we prolly wont spend to much on as long as its colorful and the fish are healthy we will be happy...
Thats cool. Just know that it is an investment of more than money, not to mention how much money.

I prefer Blue Green Chromis instead of Blue Damsels. They're a little more friendly. Though mine always cannabalize their numbers to 3 in my 55. Guess they want to be 3 not 5. Live Rock is the best place to start. You set up your tank with an inch or 2 of live sand. Place your live rock and let her roll. The curing process of your rock will cycle your tank as well. You don't really want to ever cure rock in a stocked tank.
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Old November 16th, 2007  
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its really hers im just helping out shes paying for it all... Its a 12 gallon tank... u say live rock is better for cycling? ill prolly get a damsel or two they are only 4 bucks and maybe a live rock its kinda cheap... just lookin to get something in their to get it goin at first. we prolly wont spend to much on as long as its colorful and the fish are healthy we will be happy...
Hi attached is the link to SW set up. For a 12g sw you would need 12lb live rock. and you may have some problems keeping the water perameters correct with this size tank... have a read and good luck

http://www.fishlore.com/SaltwaterAquariumSetup.htm
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Old November 17th, 2007  
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Whats a good ph/alk level for the tank?
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Old November 17th, 2007  
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fish tank is up and running... i got this biozyme stuff... idk what it is but it looked like it would be good i didnt put any in yet what do you guys think? it breaks down organic buildup and helps to culture the tank
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Old November 17th, 2007  
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i don't believe that biozyme does much.
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Old November 17th, 2007  
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fish tank is up and running... i got this biozyme stuff... idk what it is but it looked like it would be good i didnt put any in yet what do you guys think? it breaks down organic buildup and helps to culture the tank
I would let the tank cycle with the live rock, with out adding chemicals.
what type of filter are you running?
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Old November 17th, 2007  
Fish Newbie
 
some pictures of the set up.


the filter.


how long will it take to culture properly?

thanks =)
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Old November 17th, 2007  
Fish Keeper
 
You will need to keep testing the water. Once your Ammonia= 0, Nitrite= 0 and your Nitrate is below 20 you should be right. this can take 1-8 weeks

http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm
This link will explain it better
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Old November 18th, 2007  
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What can i do to lower the levels of ammonia in the tank?
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