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Old November 15th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
New 30 Gallon questions

Ok just got a new 30 Gal tank with live rock no fish yet planning on adding them soon though.
heres my parameters

I am using Red Sea 5-in-1 Master test kit For Marine Aquariums

salinity 1.025
Temp 75-79 my therm is not working accuratly
Akl 2.9-3.6
Amonia 0.25
nitrite 0.1
nitrate 50 High -10 Low
P.H 8.4-8.6
I added the Bass drops that came with the kit after i tested everything doing a 20% water change tomrw, and i will test again.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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Your test numbers look okay although I would wait a month or so with just the live rock before you put in fish. A sudden spike down the road may be fatal if you're not patient. Wait until your ammonia drops to near zero and nitrates also near zero. If you keep an eye on things and monitor closely you can see how the nitrogen cycle is progressing. Once you are safe, just start with a fish or two, no more. Then wait a couple weeks and be dilligent on your tests. Take it from someone who rushed the fish and ended up in disaster! Have fun above all, and good luck!!
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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Your tanks seems to be doing good in progress... Hope to see some photos along the way Good luck!
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Old November 16th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Just changed my water. my salt level went down to 1.020. i uploaded a few pics let me know what u think. Is that much of a salt drop bad for the fish. ill recheck my levels later today.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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Well, I'm certainly no expert but in my humble opinion the drop in salt will put some stress on the fish. When I do a water change, I always add salt water back to the tank. Now this is different than evaporation, and that's an important difference. If it evaporates remember your concentration will go up due to the ratio of water to salt. When you do a change, you need to add the salt removed with the change. So I mix salt/water then add to the tank. About a 1/2 cup per gallon should be fine but check the directions on the salt mix you are using!
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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ya i did that the salt i have said 1/2 cup per gallon of water so i took out 6 gallons of water and put in 6 gallons of salt water i had sitting overnight to let the salt mix. is this correct? 6 gallons that would be 3 cups of salt.
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Old November 16th, 2009  
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Yup, sounds right. Always a good idea to let the saltwater mix stand before you add to ensure a good solution. You're on the right track my friend!
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Old November 17th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Did another test today
i have my heater next to my powerhead could this mess with the heater i have the power head at one end of the tank and the filter at the other.

water test
72 degrees
P.H 8.5
salinity 1.020
Alk 3.4
Ammonia 0
nitrate 20h 4.0 low
Nitrite 0.01
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Old November 18th, 2009  
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Well, in my own tank I have a definate flow going around the heater. Not sure you would want it right next to the powerhead, but a small distance away to allow the heater to sense accurate temperature. If the flow is too strong, it may not be able to detect the set temp and continue to heat. To be safe, get yourself a suction cup thermometer (not the stick on type) and see how it reflects the heater setting. My heater has a digital readout so I use a thermometer to check and ensure both are correct.
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Old November 24th, 2009  
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11/24
temp 77
alk 2.9 -3.6
pH 8.4
Nitrite 0
Amonia 0
Nitrate 100-20 this went up any reason why
salinity 1.020-1.021
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Old November 25th, 2009  
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Lots of reasons I suppose. The uneaten food spoils and breaks down eventually into nitrate at the end of the cycle. I would question the filter for one. What type do you have? Has your tank cycled? Sometimes it takes a while even up to 6 weeks for a cycle depending on the bio load you have. How much rock? How many fish, if any? When you clean your filter, how are you doing it? Seems like a lot of questions but its something difficult to comment on without knowing more about your tank.
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Old November 25th, 2009  
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Hello PhishHead. I hope you can share some photos with us in the not too distant future. Congrats on the new tank!
Ken
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Old November 25th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Just got a yellow tang very nice getting him ready to add to the tank. i cant figure out how to get pictures up here. if anyone can help please would love to share them.
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Old November 25th, 2009  
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Unfortunately, a 30 gallon is not large enough for a tang of any kind. I'd suggest 75 gallons minimum for a yellow tang, although some might disagree; they are extremely active swimmers and tend to stress in tanks that are too small. JMO
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Old November 26th, 2009  
ATP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harpua2002 View Post
Unfortunately, a 30 gallon is not large enough for a tang of any kind. I'd suggest 75 gallons minimum for a yellow tang, although some might disagree; they are extremely active swimmers and tend to stress in tanks that are too small. JMO
+1

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Old November 27th, 2009  
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I agree too,also the rise in nitrate has nothing to do with your filter not working,filters don't remove nitrate.If anything they add to it if you don't clean or replace the media frequently.You also added fish before your tank cycled against the good advice from Tkurys If this was the tang which is a ick magnet,your lucky if it doesn't get ick.Try to keep your nitrate at least below 20.Water changes will do this.Keep your specific gravity stable,if your water evaporates add just fresh water no salt to bring it back down.If it is high take some water out and replace it with fresh water until it reaches the specific gravity desired.Before doing a water change make sure the specific gravity is where it is supposed to be,then do a water change with the desired specific gravity.Always do a water change with the same specific gravity unless you are trying to change it and are experienced enough to know what you are about to do.There is enough info in this forum to learn from so that "less mistakes happen",we all make mistakes.This was not meant to be critical but to help.

Last edited by Steve McKay; November 27th, 2009 at 01:20 AM.
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Old November 27th, 2009  
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Good morning. To post photos:
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Old December 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
my tank already cycled it was owned by someone else for 6 months they just gave it to me. the tang seems to b doing fine. he only comes out when the lights on. how often should i feed him ill check the tang section of the boards. thanks guys for all the help ill get some pics up soon
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Old December 1st, 2009  
Fish Master
 
If you're seeing any detectable ammonia or nitrite in your water tests, the die off from moving your rock and tank from the previous owner to your home has caused the tank to cycle again.
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Old December 2nd, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
1 Yellow Tang already i know i know tank is to small for him.

im thinking about getting these two fish next any comments
Bicolor Pseudochromis
Blue/Green Reef Chromis

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Old December 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
just one question, if you know the tank is already too small for the tang, why would you get more fish to add to stress levels etc?
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Old December 12th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
bought a 55 gallon tank ohh ya
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Old December 13th, 2009  
ATP
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It needs a 75 gallon when it reaches adult size.
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