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Old July 31st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Water changes and TSS

Helloooo, I used TSS when first got the fish about 2 weeks ago, but im nto sure when i do a water change should i put in some more TSS?
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Old July 31st, 2009  
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In this thread:
Is my fish sick?
yesterday your ammonia was between 2 and 3.
That's highly toxic. Usually TSS will cycle your tank in about 10 days. For whatever reason it obviously didn't work.

My suggestion is the same as the other thread, daily water changes until your tank is cycled.
You have a fish that isn't feeling well ( unless he's better today) and relying on TSS IMO wouldn't be a good idea at this point.
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Old July 31st, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Hi Kay,
I'm with Lucy. I would start doing daily water changes of 50% to get the ammonia down and to save the fish. It's no fun doing the WC but it will help and in the end it's so worth it when all your fish are happy and healthy.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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Good morning. Since it sounds as if the TSS didn't work for you, I agree with the daily water changes until your readings are 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites and 0 nitrates. Add some Prime or Amquel + to detox the ammonia with each water change. Best of luck!
Ken
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Ok so today do a 50% water change and add the Prime (uk product i got whichi s the same) as i do it, and when i do a WC tomorrow do the same 50% and add prime? (just want to get this right, dont want to hurt my fish)
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Sounds like you got it. I know it can be hard sometimes but what we do for our babies. You will get through this just hang in there and you have everybody here for support. Just change water, change water, and change some more water. I have faith you can do it.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
OK thanks doing a water change in a minute
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
OK WC is done added thi product http://www.animalsource.co.uk/king-b...ater-529-p.asp simular to Prime, im not soure if i feed the fish or not?

Bottle i have looks diffrent but called the same

Last edited by kaystar; August 1st, 2009 at 09:26 AM. Reason: Adding info
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Moderator
 
Good morning Kate (afternoon for you, I imagine lol)
I looked at the product. It's not the same as Prime. Someone from the UK answered in in you other thread that Prime isn't available in the UK. They got theirs off of e-bay.
What you want is a water conditioner that removes chlorine, chloramine. detox's heavy metals and ammonia (Not remove ammonia, only detox it)
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Oh ok i will have to ge some of that too, what about the ammonia in the water though? shall i carry on using that water Safe product too?
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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You normally don't need 2 water conditioners. If you use one that detox's the ammonia it won't remove it, just make the water safe for 24 hours.
Can you get Amquel+?
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
I dont know if i can get any ive not seen it about. Will Amquel+ remove chlorine, chloramine and ammonia? so i wont need to use the Water Safe that i have at the moment?

Made a short list of what products i have

1. Tap water conditioner
2. TSS
3. Tropical fish start up pack
4. Tetra test 6 in 1
5. Tap water treatment
6. Ammonia test strips
7. King British, safe water

Last edited by Lucy; August 1st, 2009 at 11:02 AM. Reason: merging back to back posts
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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You only need 1 water conditioner that does what's outlined in post 9.
Personally, I'd ditch the test strips, they're inaccurate and get yourself a good liquid test kit like the API master kit.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Ok, so because i did a water cahnge about 2 hours ago and i didnt add the Tap water conditioner should i add it now? it does what says on post 9. And keep using the King British, safe water untill the ammonia has gone to 0?
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
well personally i use prime so i cant comment on other conditioners it should say on the bottle what it takes out you should always add conditioner for pwc
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
I cant get Prime in the UK unless i order it off ebay (does it have a use by date). This is the conditioner i have http://aquariumpharm.com/Products/Pr...x?ProductID=46
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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I cant get Prime in the UK unless i order it off ebay (does it have a use by date). This is the conditioner i have http://aquariumpharm.com/Products/Pr...x?ProductID=46
Thats a good water conditioner but at this point you need something that detox's the ammonia.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
Doesnt the King British, safe water detox it or does it just remove it for 24 hours? If i do a say 80% water change and then add the water conditioner and the King British, safe water would that maybe work?
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