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November 11th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie
| 50 tiger barbs in 90 gallon tank???
what would happen if i put 50 tiger barbs in a 90 gallon tank with a fake plants?? | 
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November 11th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Hi ailvin welcome to fishlore!
I moved your post out of someone elses thread that way you can have your own attention for your own questions  | |
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November 11th, 2009
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| Welcome to Fishlore, Ailvin! I'm sure someone with tiger barb experience will be along shortly who can answer your question. | |
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November 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Bum
| 50! wow that is a lot. If those were you only fish in the tank you might be able to do it. But I have had tigers before and they will sometimes beat up on the weaker ones so there might be that problem if you have 50. I personally would go with something like 30. If you want to put any other fish in that tank besides a pleco, I would go with 15 or so. They are notorious fin nippers. Hope this helps. | |
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November 17th, 2009
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| Well, if it's a tiger barb only tank, you can obviously have more. I have 15 in a 29 (13 since my crayfsh got a couple while I was on vacation). So 50 in a 90 - I say no problem at all!
As a tiger barb enthusiest, I think that would be AWESOME. | 
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November 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Keeper
| Let me know if get 50 so you can post pics | |
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November 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| If you over filter the tank, I would say that 50 would be okay in a 90 gallon I would go with real plants if you can though because they soak up nitrates and keep your water conditions better (especially if your tank is overstocked). | |
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November 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor
| It would be something to see............  | |
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November 17th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper
| I wonder if they would all school together or break off into different schools. They would be nippy, but think of all the other fish they could pick on. No one fish would be bullied.  | |
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November 17th, 2009
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| I don't know, 50 kinda seems like too much for a 90 gallon tank to me.
If you go by the 1 gallon per inch of fish rule and say the tiger barbs get only 2 inches, that's 100 inches of fish in only 90 gallons. | |
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November 18th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Quote:
Originally Posted by abc123d30  I don't know, 50 kinda seems like too much for a 90 gallon tank to me.
If you go by the 1 gallon per inch of fish rule and say the tiger barbs get only 2 inches, that's 100 inches of fish in only 90 gallons. | The one inch per gallon rule isn't a very good one because it doesn't take any factors into account. There are all sorts of different kinds of fish with different charactaristics, and more information than just the length of the fish must be considdered when stocking. A good example of this is goldfish and neons - you can't keep 29 inches of goldfish in a 29 gallon tank, but could easily keep 29 inches of neons in a 29.
Here is a really good tool, which is getting better all the time, for determining stocking levels. A lot of research has gone into this project, I'm sure. http://aqadvisor.com/AqAdvisor.php
Last edited by Jaysee; November 18th, 2009 at 01:48 AM.
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November 18th, 2009
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| Hello Ailvin and Welcome  to Fish Lore. I think an all Tiger Barb tank would be cool. Once you have it stocked with 30 (please don't add them all at the same time) see how things go and then decide if you want to add more. If you're able to buy juveniles I would suggest adding 4 or 5 at a time wait 2 weeks then add another 5. This will give your biological filtration time to build and get stronger and hopefully prevent you from going into a mini cycle.
Here is a link to the nitrogen cycle. Your aquarium information profile isn't complete so I'm not sure if you're aware of it or not. It's crucial to fish keeping: The Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle
Best of luck and please keep us posted.
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December 11th, 2009
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| i got 70 barb already^_^
i cant help buying fish... it helps me relax every time i went home..
and im happy that they stayed as a school together..
but i cant find a perfect driftwood for my tank. im still looking for the right size of the driftwood that fits my tank properly. ill post its picture when i found the proper driftwood and thanks for all of your suggestion it really helps me a lot. | |
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December 11th, 2009
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| does the Ich kills tiger barbs?
can ICH kill my barb 
i just transfer my barb back to my main tank cus we painted the whole house.. and i have to relocate it for a while.. we cant even lift it cause its to heavy. it is a 90 gallon tank...i put them on a smaller thank, then i discharge the old water so we can lift it and the wall against my tank...and when i put it back with a new water(treated) with less than 48 hours...
I've notice a white spots in some of my fishes.. will it spread to the uninfected fish to ? should i do a 50% water change every day??
does ich can kill my barb ?
I'm prostrated for my fish not to die  | |
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December 11th, 2009
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| I'm sorry your fish are ill.
Is that a picture of the sick fish? Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't really see ich.
It is very contageous, so yes it can infect your other fish. If it gets bad enough it can get into the gills and kill them.
Water changes alone won't get rid of ich.
It would be a good idea to slowly raise the temp to 84F, leave it there for at least 2 weeks. Add an airstone to make up for less oxygen in waremer water.
Do a few extra water changes and gravel vacs to pick up any ich spores.
Best of luck. | |
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December 11th, 2009
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| | Fish Mentor
| Aw, I am sorry. Did you acclimate them to the other tank, then when you put them back into the main tank did you acclimate them again? They got stressed and that's an open door for ICH.
Lucy gave you good advice. I hope it works out and it doesn't get bad. | |
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December 11th, 2009
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Originally Posted by AlyeskaGirl Aw, I am sorry. Did you acclimate them to the other tank, then when you put them back into the main tank did you acclimate them again? They got stressed and that's an open door for ICH.
Lucy gave you good advice. I hope it works out and it doesn't get bad. |
After my post, I looked back in other threads. There are 70 barbs in this tank.
AlyeskaGirl is right about stress causing health issues and 70 tiger barbs in a 90g tank is probably very stressful for them. | |
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December 11th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| IMO 70 is going to be a major issue with agression..especially in a newly setup tank....I hope things work out! because it wont help you feel good and relax if they get sick  | |
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December 11th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Shawnie IMO 70 is going to be a major issue with agression..especially in a newly setup tank....I hope things work out! because it wont help you feel good and relax if they get sick | There already are some issues.
Just for members info, here are two other threads about these fish. does the Ich kills tiger barbs? nipped fin | |
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December 11th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| oh I didnt realize there was another thread...sorry
ich will kill if not taken care of, and nipped fins is lack of space for agressive nippers... | |
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December 11th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| I thought you were getting 50, which is IMO the upper limit for your tank. | |
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December 12th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie
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Originally Posted by Shawnie IMO 70 is going to be a major issue with agression..especially in a newly setup tank....I hope things work out! because it wont help you feel good and relax if they get sick | actually i haven't encounter the nipped fin problem i just ask if it will grow back^_^
I'm sorry i i didn't make it quite clear to you guys....
my barb are getting along fine. and they all swim as a school i just saw a picture of a fin nipped tiger barb and i felt really sorry.. poor fish..
does fin rot heals too?? will it also grow back just the way it is?
Last edited by ailvin; December 12th, 2009 at 12:23 AM.
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December 12th, 2009
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| i got my 70 barb for a month now this is just the first time that it happens when i made a 100% water change. | |
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December 12th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Lucy I'm sorry your fish are ill.
Is that a picture of the sick fish? Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't really see ich.
It is very contageous, so yes it can infect your other fish. If it gets bad enough it can get into the gills and kill them.
Water changes alone won't get rid of ich.
It would be a good idea to slowly raise the temp to 84F, leave it there for at least 2 weeks. Add an airstone to make up for less oxygen in waremer water.
Do a few extra water changes and gravel vacs to pick up any ich spores.
Best of luck. |
that's not the fish that has ich.. that's just one of my favorite fish..
Last edited by ailvin; December 12th, 2009 at 12:18 AM.
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December 12th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| Lucy's advise was great, i advise you follow it.
I would suggest you upload only your own pictures. Otherwise it may throw others off (like lucy) and make them believe its yours. The ICH is most likely caused by the stress of all the fish, lack of room, water quality, and other things. If it were me i would rehome some of them and maybe keep a few, just for the sake of the fish's health. | |
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December 12th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Tony G. Lucy's advise was great, i advise you follow it.
I would suggest you upload only your own pictures. Otherwise it may throw others off (like lucy) and make them believe its yours. The ICH is most likely caused by the stress of all the fish, lack of room, water quality, and other things. If it were me i would rehome some of them and maybe keep a few, just for the sake of the fish's health. | it only happens when i change the water..
i treated it just like before. | |
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December 12th, 2009
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|  Wondering why you asked about a fish with ich then knowingly included a picture of one without ich. | |
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December 12th, 2009
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| | Fish Lore Newbie
| i accidentally post a wrong picture 
ill post the one that has an ich on it when i got back home..
my local fish store gave a solution that can kills ich just add 1 tbs per 1 gallon and recommended that not to make any water change for a couple of day..
and he also said that this things really works that bet his life on it..^_^
ill destroy him if this thing doesn't work^_^
Last edited by aquarist48; December 12th, 2009 at 04:17 AM.
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December 12th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| I reccomend you dont do 100% waterchanges unless you have really high ammonia readings. The reason being is that it will stress your fish alot, and weaken them, making them prone to disease. You see, ich is always present. It only comes out when the fish is in bad conditions (stress, etc.) you just have to be careful about sudden changes, as it will make them catch it. Just raise your temp (if you DO have ich) to abouve 84* and leave it like that for 2-3 weeks. Do a gravel vac 2 times a week.
Ive been trhough ich before, the first time no fish made it but a guppy and a catfish, the second time the ich came right off with the high temps. you just have to catch it in the beggining stage as it is easier to treat. Hope i helped. | |
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December 12th, 2009
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Originally Posted by Tony G. I reccomend you dont do 100% waterchanges unless you have really high ammonia readings. The reason being is that it will stress your fish alot, and weaken them, making them prone to disease. You see, ich is always present. It only comes out when the fish is in bad conditions (stress, etc.) you just have to be careful about sudden changes, as it will make them catch it. Just raise your temp (if you DO have ich) to abouve 84* and leave it like that for 2-3 weeks. Do a gravel vac 2 times a week.
Ive been trhough ich before, the first time no fish made it but a guppy and a catfish, the second time the ich came right off with the high temps. you just have to catch it in the beggining stage as it is easier to treat. Hope i helped. | i just transfer my barb back to my main tank cus we painted the whole house.. and i have to relocate it for a while.. we cant even lift it cause its to heavy. it is a 90 gallon tank...i put them on a smaller thank, then i discharge the old water so we can lift it and the wall against my tank...and when i put it back with a new water(treated) with less than 48 hours...
I've notice a white spots in some of my fishes.
is that reasonable? | |
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