Matt

Hey All,

Before i get shouted at about having a blue tang in a tank that is only 130 litres i would just like to say my good mate at my LFS said it would be fine so i added it and so far so good.

Here is a video:

-Matt

soldieroffortune1974

WOW,your aquarium has changed since the last video.The LR really came alive. Looking good.

Matt

Thanks Alot SOF

I Love Comments

-Matt

Peterpiper

Your tank, your the one who has to deal with it.
Thats a powder blue tang.
IMO, Sorry Matt, but it will get ICH from the stress.
What are you going to feed it?
Matt, For the sake of the tang, return it, get a bigger tank then get one.
You would need to feed it nori, and this will mess the water in a small tank.
I am not having a go at you as we are all learning here.
But IMO, you ar asking for some real problems.

Matt

Pete here is a fact for you alright..... As we speak my BLUE TANG (NOT POWDER BLUE TANG) is consuming tonnes of my sea-grass in my tank and trust me i have lots of it.

I will feed it nori and spirulina brine shrimp and also i am going to take my friend from the LFS' advice over yours okay because you are having a go at me and i was stressing out whether i should tell you guys or keep it secret and avoid the criticism.

I am looking out for the fishes best interests aswell i am constantly checking on it and watching for any signs of stress. So far so good.

Sorry If This Sounds Rude But It Is The Truth.

-Matt

Mike19

Although im from Australia, fishlore has made me speak in gallons what is 130L in Gallons? lol

soldieroffortune1974

34.35 gallons

Mike19

wow im surprised what you can do with 35G for SW, i thought u needed at least 55G minimum.

Nice Job Matt, Love the black and white clown

Peterpiper

Sorry Matt, you are right, it is a blue tang.
Like I said Matt, its up to you.
You friend, is your friend, and your fish is your fish, and you can do what ever you like. Its up to you.
But let me say this, Many fish keepers have spent years to build and keep these fish. that info is on this site.
I speak with marine bio's on how and why things go wrong.
I wish you all the best with your tang.
One last thing, sometimes we beleave what we want to hear, but that does'nt make it right..
Pete

Matt

Sorry For Going off At You Like That Pete Just I Hate When People Say They Arent Gonna Do Something and Then They Go Ahead And DO it.

still friends?

-Matt

Matt

Thanks Mike

-Matt

Mike19

hey matt out of curiosity how much did that tang retail for?

Matt

It was meant to be $75 but i scooped it for only $60.

My Mate Always Gives Me Discounts

-Matt

Mike19

Your tank has made me decide SW for my next project lol. im just waiting on a reply from a tank supplier so i can see if he can get my 185G (700L) tank. his got the 80G size although if im going to buy a tank i may as well get the best one i can.

Peterpiper

What was it I said that I was'nt going to do and did?
The difference is that a friend will tell you what he thinks and knows.
Now as a friend, I say you will have problems with the tang within 4 weeks.
Its up to you how the fish is cared for, and what happens to it.

Matt

The Bold One Is The Thing You Said You Wouldnt Do yet Still Went Ahead And Did it.

WE WILL SEE WHETHER I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY TANG WITHIN 4 WEEKS PETER.

-Matt

Mike19

keep it cool guys, whats done is done. Matt what size is your tang

Peterpiper

Matt, I am not having a go.
I was pointing out what will happen IMO.
Like I said, its up to you what you do with the fish in your care.
Didnt mean to upset you, but as a member of fishlore I feel it is better to say something when we know there are going to be issues, than say nothing.
Or would you like us to say nothing? Or tell you just what you want to hear even if it not right?
A friend will always tell you the truth.
What have I got to gain by telling you that you will have issues with the tang?
Your friend at the LFS made a sale, that is what he does
If we dont say that something is what it is, then what is the point of forums full of people that have learnt by their mistakes, we all learn by what others have done.
If someone gives you information that you dont like, that does not mean they are having a go.
IMO stands for In My Opinion,
Good luck my friend!
Pete

travie

Your good mate at the LFS is just out to make money by saying a Blue Tang will be fine in only 130 litres of water. Mainly considering they can get up to a foot long and need a lot of empty swimming place. Your money, your tank, and your poor fish, so do what you want, I guess. There is no tang on this planet that should be put in anything less than 55 gallons. Just my 2 .

Martinismommy

I LOVE blue tangs! Congratulations! Your tank is lovely Matt...

-pinky-

Nice fish, the tank looks pretty awesome! I've never had a saltwater tank but the live rock is really beautiful. I quite often take the advice of my local fish store 'maidenhead aquatics' nothing is ever wrong there, why are people so edgy about shop workers? I also love the black and white clowns...very cool =]

Matt

Thanks Alot You Guys.

Sorry Pete I Was Just In A Bad Mood.

Travie My good mate at the LFS has been my mate for over 7 years now. He has worked with fish all his life and he knows what he is doing. You guys are just to afraid to try.

-Matt

nemo addict

Keeping fish in an aquarium that is too small is incredibly unhealthy. It morally wrong to put something that grows large into a small confine area for several reasons. 1) You are preventing the fish from growing to it's full potential. It will either become stunted, or it will die. 2) You are causing the fish to live extremely uncomfortably. Imagine yourself, living in a 3 foot by 3 foot closet, with only a bucket to go to the bathroom in. No matter how much air circulation there is, no matter how much you are fed, and no matter how many times that bucket is dumped out, you are guaranteed to live a miserable life. This is exactly what is happening to large fish in small aquariums.

If the fish does not suffocate in it's own filth, it is going to become stunted. Stunting is very painful, and causes deformities. Deformities include internal organs growing inside the body, even when the body is not growing. Soon the organs will grow too large and either 1) 1 or more organs will burst open inside the fish causing a massively painful death for the fish, or 2) An organ will grow too large for the body to be able to supply energy to and the fish will die of some sort of organ failure, usually a slow death. Other symptoms of stunting are sculliosis, which can get to the point where the fish can barely move, and does cause severe spinal pain for the fish.

and this is a scientific fact not advice from a lfs, that just want to take your money friend or not , as there is no friend in business ,
WHY TRY A PROVEN FACT

travie

I'm not going to try something that should not be done. Experimenting is one thing, but there is no Tang alive that should be in a 35 gallon tank. I know you are not going to listen to sound reason. Proper research was obviously not done in this case. Proper research is consulting more than one source of information for advice. If you were to search up articles online for a Blue Tang , 99% would say a tank size of at least 60 gallons is recommended if not bigger tanks are recommended. Oh well, your waste of money, but poor fish.

Matt

Guess what you guys must not have heard. I AM GETTING A BIGGER TANK SOON QUIT ARGUING!

Thats one way to be blunt.

-Matt

Matt

Here is an updated video of me VERY HAPPY blue tang.

He is eating lots and LOVES it in his new tank.

Peterpiper

Matt,
Just some advice, keep a close eye on the ammonia for the next 2 weeks.
Adding a fish this size can over load the bio filter for a short time till the bacteria catch up.
Keep an eye on the tang for small white spots, they look like grains of salt.
Pete

gremlin

(humming) Just keep swimming, just keep swimming - fish are friends, not food.
So - are you going to name it Dori?

Matt

yer I think i will gremlin

Pete: Thanks ALot Pete. Ill Make Sure I Check Ammonia Often And I Have White SPot Treatment Meds Ready And Waiting On My Desk Incase Dory Gets White Spot.

-Matt

Mike

Good to hear you have a bigger tank planned. Matt, some view keeping fish like tangs in smaller tanks, like a 34 liter, as cruel. The Paracanthurus hepatus can get to be about 10 - 12 inches in size, they are very active and need lots of swimming space. Not coming down on you for doing this, but that's the truth. I'm not trying to sell you anything, nor is travie or peterpiper. Rather, we are just trying to help you make good long term decisions for your tank. Much less stressful that way.