MizRamzi

After having spoken to several different SW keeper having a combined 40yrs of experience with dealing with the horrible, dreaded ICH in SW, this is the treatment they have recommended to me. After soooo much research and the death of my only 2 fishes, Yellow Clown Goby and last night my Orange Fire Fish. These are the makers of Amqul+ among other well known products used my us Aquariusts.

http://www.novalek.com/kordon/ich_attack/index.htm

cerianthus

Just another product among so many natural Ich treatment remedy. I would say it is hit and miss just as other herbal remedy which I am familiar with.

Go for it. Post results.
I dont know where you obtained information on Cryptocaryon irritan. But try Reefland.com. Pretty thoroughly laid out and simple. I am sure you will find it very useful.
This is very simple fact but difficult to treat since hard to catch them at early stages.

Like I said before, very seldomly/rarely experienced Ich infestations on fish with extra slime coating (natural defense) such as clown goby, although it couldve been. I cant say for sure since I never seen your fish.

I hope you find the solution that works for you.

harpua2002

I would hesitate to use any medication in a reef tank even if it says it is safe for corals and inverts.

As I understand it, you can run the main tank fallow for 6-8 weeks to get rid of the ich parasite. This, of course, would require you moving the watchman goby to a QT during this time. You could treat him with hyposalinity in QT if you want as either a preventative measure or if you see that he has ich.

cerianthus

Has anyone tried so called Hypo Sal tratment (1.009- 1.010) with good results? if so, what kind of fish?

harpua2002

I have never had marine ich in any tanks, so never done it. I've read quite a bit about it on WWM and they seem to prefer it over treating with meds.

MizRamzi

Well I've already started treating so there's not much I can do except pray. I don't have a qt tank ready. But I've started one. It's just a lil 3g, yes I know I should go bigger but for now it'll have to suffice. I've got some LR in there, just a few small pieces and added some crushed LR to the filter. However the LR was dried out.
I'm trying so hard not to get discouraged. I keep having the green algae issue. Now it looks as if a small frag of polyps has died. It hasn't been out for over a week. The purple and green polyps seem to be doing good as well as the zoa. All inverts are healthy as well so far, lets see what happens with the new med.
My water perimeters are all good.
ammonia=0
nitrates=0
nitrites=0
SG=1.024
pH=8.4
cal=400
kh=214

MizRamzi

My new (and second) Fire Fish has ICH!!!! What the heck? My other 2 fishes have none. I don't understand it. I've been watching this fish at the LFS for a month now. Looking for signs of illness and such. Seeing nothing I decided to buy it.
I've read just about everything I can read on the subject. All the treatments and everything. What I don't understand is if I treat the fish separately, keeping her out of the main tank, what's to say she wont get it again? Since the ICH is in the tank. I know that it needs a host to survive but why isn't it having an effect on the other fish? Is it actually in the tank or is it the fish? The other 2 fish that have since died from ICH came from the same tank at the LFS that this new fish has come from.
The other 2 in my tank have come from different sources and are healthy and eat very well and seem to love their surroundings.
Is it the fish or my tank?

The Fonz

Try "Kick-Ich". I had ich on my new blue hippo tang, it then spread to my two clown fish. I tried the Kick-Ich. It did the trick and wiped the ich out. It says its safe for invertebrates. I have 70lbs of LR and 2 cleaning shrimp and it all did fine. Follow the directions on the bottle because even if the ich looks like its gone (off the fish) it can still be in the tank so you have to follow though with the kick ich even after the fish look ok (too kill the ich if its still in the tank). In my tank it didn't look like it was working for 2 weeks, although it wasn't getting worse. After 2 weeks the ich started disappearing. After a month it was gone. I also turned the heat up to about 80 because it speeds the parasites life cycle, aka exposing more generations of the ich to the meds to get rid of it quicker hopefully. It saved my tank.

I hope this helps/works.
If I ever get it again i will definitely use Kick-Ich again.

aquarist48

Hello MizRamzi...sorry to hear you're having to deal with ICH.
Best of luck
Ken

harpua2002

It could be affecting your other fish in an area where you can't see it, such as the gills. A fish that isn't stressed can have a low-level infection from what I understand, and you would never see any signs of it. Then when you add a new fish, it is stressed from moving and becomes an easy target for ich. This is why I suggested QT'ing all fish and letting the tank run fallow (fishless) for 6-8 weeks. Without a host, the ich should die off.

MizRamzi

I've gotta look for a larger qt tank. I've got a 3g up and cycling but that's no where big enough for 3 fishes.
On the up side I started using ICH Attack and after 2 days my Fire Fish is actually looking better. Spots seem to be diminishing and she's more active. For now it's my only option at least until I can set up a decent qt tank.

harpua2002

That could just be due to the nature of the life cycle of ich though... it's hard to say at this point.

MizRamzi

Well I'm on my 4th day of treatment for ICH (found on my new Fire fish) and lo and behold she is looking wonderful!! I've been using ICH Attack at 3ml a day. I almost thought I was gonna lose her. Today I came home from work (having treated the tank this a.m.) and she was out, looking for food!!! Only a few spots showing on her fins, where's 2 days ago her whole body had them.
My inverts are doing good as are all my zoas/palys.

MizRamzi

Today is the fifth day of treatment with ICH Attack. I see just a few spots on her now. She's very active, is out swimming all day, doesn't even hid any more. I'm so excited!!!

Malinois1

Hey MizRamzi, How did your ICH treatment go?

shawnw

i think my clowns have ICH..

locoyo386

Hi all,

I have a question to you all that I was confronted with in another web site.

How do we know it is the Ich parasite for sure?

I was told that there are alot of other parasites that look like Ich. Taking that into consideration how do we know we are treating Ich and not another parasite. Maybe that is why some medications work for some people and not for others. I wish there was a 100% definitive way of finding out if it is Ich indeed. Does any one know how to determine if it is Ich 100%.

sgould

Unfortunately, when dealing with fish disease lots of times there is no way to be 100% sure what you are dealing with. You have to make an educated guess based on the symptoms and go from there based on most common/likely causes of those symptoms.