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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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ICH treatment????
can somebody hep me treat the ICH  i added copper safe and i am feeding my fishes with garlic and krill...what should i do next besides on raising the temp  ?the salinity is 1.025 and i let my LSF to chkect my water and they said that its okey...
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Master
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Maryann your information says you dont know about the nitrogen cycle..so you may have a combination of things going on...
http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm read that link and follow it for a cycle with fish...
If you indeed do have ich, turning up the temp to 83 degrees for two weeks will kill it...goodluck !
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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i always bring the water to be tested at my LSF and they say that the water is okey to put fishes, already.what else can i do in order to help my fishes get rid of the ICH?besides raising the temp to 83 gradually?should i still continue giving garlic to their food 2x a wk?should i chnge the water?how much?the salinity is 1.025.thank you
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maryann
i always bring the water to be tested at my LSF and they say that the water is okey to put fishes, already.what else can i do in order to help my fishes get rid of the ICH?besides raising the temp to 83 gradually?should i still continue giving garlic to their food 2x a wk?should i chnge the water?how much?the salinity is 1.025.thank you
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Hi Maryann,
Keep raising the temp by 2 deg a day until you reach 83f, then hold this temp for 3 weeks. When you are doing water changes, make sure the new water is the same temp. you will need to do a 15-20% water change every 2-3 days, make sure the new water is the same temp 83f.
Garlic will help the fish greatly, so increase the feeding to every 2nd day.
Your SG is high, slowly bring it down to 1.022, this can be done when you do the water changes, mix the new water to a SG of 1.023 for the first 2 water changes, then go to 1.022.
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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ok,i will do that...thank you so much...i hope it will work.i will let you know what will happen after 3 days.
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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Peterpipper, i just check the salinity just now,then it was 1.026...how should i bring it down  tomorrow i will do the water change...by the way, do i need to add copper safe in the new water?how much of it?
iM PLANNING TO BUY THIS,IS THIS SAFE TO ADD RIGHT AWAY?
"Real Ocean Water is natural sea water that's already filtered, sanitized, and pH balanced. No mixing. No measuring. No adjusting. Just pour Real Ocean Water directly into your aquarium."
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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It's not that difficult. Say you're doing a 20% water change. That would mean that you're pulling out 6 gallons. Instead of replacing all 6 gallons of SW, use 5 gallons of SW and 1 gallon of FW. Again make sure the water is heated up to the proper temps.
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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I would not use any meds in the tank at this point.
I just looked at your aquarium info, how long has the tank been running? and do you have test kits for ammonia, nitrite & nitrate? The test kits are very important. Your readings should be Ammonia - 0, Nitrite - 0 & Nitrate less than 20. If you have the water tested at the LFS, ask for the readings, as I have found that some LFS say its ok to have some ammonia and nitrites in the water.
The water in the tank should have a PH of 8.2, this will need to be checked ( test kit ) the new water should have the same PH.
When adding the new water, check the SG, IT SHOULD BE 1.022-1.024. Then check the temp, the temp must be the same as the tank.
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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TO PETERPIPPER,
so meaning to say that if i will make a water change tomorrow that will be without any medication, just SW with the same temp, ...i just bought the test kit, i will check it then i will let you know what are the results.
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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TO OIL FAN,
YOU were saying that i could buy the ready to use water about 5 gallons then just add FW with the same temp?..do i need to add anti-chlorine?
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil_Fan
It's not that difficult. Say you're doing a 20% water change. That would mean that you're pulling out 6 gallons. Instead of replacing all 6 gallons of SW, use 5 gallons of SW and 1 gallon of FW. Again make sure the water is heated up to the proper temps.
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As the fish are already stressed, any change in water perameters must be done very slowly. If the new water has a SG of 1.022-1.024, then I would leave the new water at this SG for the first 4-5 water changes, by doing this the SG in the tank will slowly come down.
When you top off the tank water due to evaporation, you should use RO/DI water for this..
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maryann
TO PETERPIPPER,
so meaning to say that if i will make a water change tomorrow that will be without any medication, just SW with the same temp, ...i just bought the test kit, i will check it then i will let you know what are the results.
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No medication, just SW as per my post. Feeding with garlic every 2nd day will help the fishes immune system.
How is the temp on the tank going?
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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Peterpipper,
the temp was 81.
the PH is 8.0
Amonia is .25
Nitrite is .25
Nitrate is 0
salinity is 1.026
is this good enough?
Last edited by maryann; April 29th, 2008 at 10:37 PM.
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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Peterpipper,
the salinity is 1.026, i think it was sky high at this point, so tomorrow i will add new water with like 1.025? with the same temp. did i get it right  then after 3 days i will change it again with the same value,until i reaches 4-5 water changes?, then go down by 1.024 until it really go down to 1.024...
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maryann
Peterpipper,
the temp was 81.
the PH is 8.0
Amonia is .25
Nitrite is .25
Nitrate is 0
salinity is 1.026
is this good enough?
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 big hugs maryann ...as i said up there ^^ the tank isnt cycled ...  its frustrating but fixable...doing the water changes as peter said and doing them daily will help the cycle along..its progressing because you have nitrates..its just not complete yet....goodluck hun!
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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how often i need to change the water?because i will buy a ready to use water at petco.was still the ICH is gone?
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April 29th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maryann
Peterpipper,
the temp was 81.
the PH is 8.0
Amonia is .25
Nitrite is .25
Nitrate is 0
salinity is 1.026
is this good enough?
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How old is the tank? With the readings you have I would say the tank has not completed the cycle process, and the ammonia and nitrites have stressed the fish and this has lead to the problem with the ich.
If the readings are correct then you should be doing daily 20% water changes until the tank has cycled
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April 30th, 2008
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Fish Bum
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1 month only...with the new water that i will add today, i will add stress zyme then lower the salinity level (1.025),add PH buffer,maintain it up to 4-5 water change then go down again to 1.024...actually this morning i can't barely see any ICh in my fishes,hopefully i already speed up the life cylcle of them..then currrent temp was 81 then today, i will raise it again to 82, but i will check it first before i incease it.
thank you for your help...what should i do next?
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