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October 31st, 2009
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Originally Posted by josh11551  i have went out today (to petco) and they had like 30 damsels (along with a yellow eye tang) ina 15-20 gallon tank..They did not seem stressed and werent territorial they all swimmed around freely and didnt harm each other...i got a yellow tailed damsel and a 3 striped damsel and they are both about 1/2" each they seem to be sticking together in the tank so far.....(oh btw i also got a turbo snail^^)...i have 2 new questions.... what do they normally act like when you put them in a tank and is it ok to put fake plants in the fish tank like i did with my FW fish(same type as reshwater fake plants)?
Thanks for all the help,
Josh | What kind of damsels?
Last edited by ATP; November 1st, 2009 at 09:55 AM.
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November 1st, 2009
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| And to think the poor guy just wanted to know what fish he could put into his tank, jeeeez you guys, ever here of KISS?
Here's a very nice link to nano fish keeping, hope it helps. http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/inde...howtopic=74703 | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by MizRamzi | lol.
When ever I post some thing for a basic idea this happens. | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by ATP I would put it in a tank bigger than 225 (best if bigger) in my opinion. | What size would you put in and what are the dimenions of the tank? Quote:
Originally Posted by ATP Ok, do you know they're happy? Can you see an expression? A naso tang always looks like it's smiling even when it's dead. | Although that might be correct they do show if they are happy via thier behaviors and their swimming patterns. In a way they do tell you if they are happy or not. Quote:
Originally Posted by ATP I know that a 400 gallon is not the same size as the ocean, but it's closer to it than a 5 gallon. There are more space. | With respect to who, you the ocean or the fish? If it is with respect of the fish than it is all proportional to the fish. | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by nemo addict Hi people , I think the point that ATP is trying to put across is that small tanks can stress fish out and cause them to die prematurely ,, also putting a naso tang in a small tank is total madness, they are fast swimmers and grow rather large and shouldnt be put in anything smaller then a 6ft long tank. | I understand his point thus I did not recemend to put a 3" fish in the 5 gallon. I recomended a max of 2.5" but a 2" would be better. You mention that a Naso Tang would be ok in a 6' tank. The Tang gets to be 18" long, and in a 72" long tank that would give you a 1:4 length of fish to length of tank ratio. The 2" damsel would have a 1:8 ratio in a 16" long tank. I think that the 2" fish would have more swimming room than the 18" fish. The question that I pose is which fish is in a bigger tank? If it acceptable to put an 18" Tang into a 72" long tank, why is it not acceptable to put a 2" fish into a 16" long tank? How is it that the 2" Damsel would be more stressed than the Tang when the Damsel is in a bigger tank with respect to it, than the Tang would be in? | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by josh11551 ...i got a yellow tailed damsel and a 3 striped damsel and they are both about 1/2" each they seem to be sticking together in the tank so far | Well the Yellow Tail Damsel is more docile than the 3-Stripe Damsel. The Yellow Tail can reach 3" and the 3-Stripe can reach 4". Thye are oging to fight and most like the 3-Stripe is going to kill the yellow tail once they reach around 2". Quote:
Originally Posted by josh11551 what do they normally act like when you put them in a tank and is it ok to put fake plants in the fish tank like i did with my fw fish(same type as reshwater fake plants)? | Risrt they will be checking out the tank and establishing their territories. They will start chasing each other after maybe 3 weeks once placed in the tank. Shortly after they will start nipping at ech other to try to establish hiearchy. I thinking that the 3-Stripe will win that battle. Hopefully they will be able to coexist, if not they will fin nipp and fight till one is dead. You might be better off with a Yellow Tail and a Clown Goby.
Thanks for all the help,
Josh[/quote]
You can put fake stuff, just make sure they are intended to be for saltwater. I know waltmart sells stuff that are marine safe but not sure if the all the fake plants are. | |
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November 1st, 2009
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| Ok, lets stop with the naso thing since it doesn't have anything to do with this and this thread should be dead because he already got the fish. So done | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by MizRamzi | Well this thread was not about the Naso Tang, I just used that as an example to pointing out tank dimesnsion with respect to the fish that are going to be housed in it.
I think that all the comments are pertinent to this thread as they give different opinions on housing fih. I just want to make sure that the original poster know the reasoning behind the opinions and that they are not just regurgitated from what others have said. | |
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November 1st, 2009
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| This seems to look more like an argument. lol. | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by ATP This seems to look more like an argument. lol. | Yes it could, I guess. Well I will let it go. To poster if you have any further questions ask away. | |
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November 1st, 2009
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| my fish are only a half inch big (if that) so i think they will live together in peace since they stay together a lot(they dont swim much yet) | |
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November 1st, 2009
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Originally Posted by josh11551 my fish are only a half inch big (if that) so i think they will live together in peace since they stay together a lot(they dont swim much yet) | Yeah they will be ok for the time being. Once they get used to the tank, that's when you will start to notice behavioral changes. Hope they paired up and won't be too much of an issue. I have never had a pair of Damsel fihs paired up before, so hopefully yours will. | |
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November 2nd, 2009
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Originally Posted by josh11551 i have went out today (to petco) and they had like 30 damsels (along with a yellow eye tang) ina 15-20 gallon tank..They did not seem stressed and werent territorial they all swimmed around freely and didnt harm each other...i got a yellow tailed damsel and a 3 striped damsel and they are both about 1/2" each they seem to be sticking together in the tank so far.....(oh btw i also got a turbo snail^^)...i have 2 new questions.... what do they normally act like when you put them in a tank and is it ok to put fake plants in the fish tank like i did with my fw fish(same type as reshwater fake plants)?
Thanks for all the help,
Josh | you have to watch some plastic plants as they leech toxins in to the water ,, put them in bleach for a few days then RO for a few days | |
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