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Old September 8th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
First SW Tank... Need help.

I was going to start a 10 gallon SW reef tank and I just need to know some things...
-What kind of lighting do I need for moderate light corals? What would you recomend?
-How many powerheads would I need?
-Could I get a Clownfish, a Firefish, a Orangespot goby and a pistol shrimp? What would be a good stocking list for this?
-Do I really need a protien skimmer? What kind should I get for a 10 gallon?
-What are the calcium suppliments and other things for corals? Can my LFS help with getting calcium?
-Should I do about a 5% waterchange every week? And do I top off evaporated water with fresh water (Dechlorinated tap water)?
-Do I need a power filter?
-Any other things I should know?
I really am looking forward to having a saltwater tank, thanks for the help/
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Old September 8th, 2009  
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My responses are in blue.


I was going to start a 10 gallon SW reef tank and I just need to know some things...
smaller tanks are harder than larger tanks due to the fluctuating water parameters

-What kind of lighting do I need for moderate light corals? What would you recomend?
Depends on what is considered moderate light, the clarity of the water, distance the light is from the corals. Generally and very roughly speaking, I would consider power compacts to be moderate lighting

-How many powerheads would I need?
For a 10 gallon, one should be fine -aim for about 15 to 20 times tank volume - 10 gallon tank needs about 150 to 200 GPH rated powerhead or more.

-Could I get a Clownfish, a Firefish, a Orangespot goby and a pistol shrimp? What would be a good stocking list for this?
For a 10 gallon and if it were my tank, I would not keep any fish in it (ok, maybe something that stays really small like a single yellowtail blue devil damselfish). I would just focus on the corals myself.

-Do I really need a protien skimmer? What kind should I get for a 10 gallon?
Nope, you don't really need one but I wouldn't run a tank without one unless you plan on very frequent water changes.

-What are the calcium suppliments and other things for corals? Can my LFS help with getting calcium?
For a small tank you can buy calcium supplements and you'll need buffer supplements to make sure that the alkalinity and the calcium levels stay where they need to be which means you will also need test kits for these parameters.

-Should I do about a 5% waterchange every week? And do I top off evaporated water with fresh water (Dechlorinated tap water)?
That would be a fine goal to aim for. Depends really on your stocking level, how much life is in the tank, etc. Top off with freshwater. Use your hydrometer to determine when you need to tweak the salinity levels.

-Do I need a power filter?
Nope. I don't use them on my saltwater tanks. If you have live rock (for bio filtration) and a protein skimmer, along with some powerheads you should be fine.

-Any other things I should know?
Research everything BEFORE you buy it and most importantly, take your time and enjoy the learning and research process. It's a lot of fun.

Check out the saltwater beginner articles page for more ideas.


Mike

Last edited by Mike; September 8th, 2009 at 10:21 PM.
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Old September 8th, 2009  
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Hi JoeSmo: I am a newby myself but felt like giving you a hand here.

Last month (August 2nd) I decided to go into SW. I began planning for a 10gal Nano and ended up with a custom built pre-drilled 20gal tall tank with a 6gal sump. I am still cycling it (nitrites are fading down now).

First: For Soft Corals T5HO should do the trick. Please read around on recommended light settings for Nano SW for low-to-medium-light demanding, hardy soft/stony corals. My custom built 20gal tank has 24" of height with 6" of aragonite sand as substrate. I use six 20W T8 (2 Power Glo, 2 Marine Glo, 2 Resun D-20W) and four 24W T5HO Marine Glo. My tank has the footprint of a standard 10gal (20"L x 10"W).

Two: A couple of small powerheads (I am using two AquaClear 20) should provide fair although not optimal circulation. I am looking into DIY wave/surge systems now. If you can get a small Koralia I suggest you do it.


Three: For a tank so small it would be pushing the limits to consider just one Clownfish OR Firefish OR Orange Spot Goby. The shrimp should be welcomed if compatible with your chosen fish.

Four: You don't really need a protein skimmer as in "must have one" but it surely is a good addition for removing organic compounds before they build up. I use a small Resun SK-05 for the sole reason no other small unit was available and I am overall satisfied with Resun quality in FW. Please look around for real users reviews since some units in the market are a waste of money.

Five: Calcium can be easily added by a simple kalkwasser reactor. I intend to use it for automatic top off (ATO) by means of DIY gravity drip system. I purchased Kent's Marine Kalkwasser mix.

Six: Consider using RO water only. I purchase mine in 5gal reservoirs from a company that sells it for human consumption locally (kind of crazy idea but cheap RO water for me). Using treated tap water is likely going to create some unwanted problems in your saltwater chemistry. I believe once cycled your water parameters will tell you when to do a water change. Since top-off is usually needed more frequently than in FW, it's like small partial water changes are being performed constanly (only that RO/DI water is used since salts do not evaporate).

Seven: If you are not using a sump, consider using a somewhat big powerfilter (e.g. AquaClear 70) to fill it with chumps of live rock only, this way you have a HOB refugium/sump and you get some more space in your 10gal tank. If you go this way you may not need more than one powerhead.

Eight: I would add the following:
a) Read, read, and then read some more (e.g. check this thread on Reef Central Online http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1031074)
b) Get as good live rock as you can from the start.
c) Invest in a good SW, Reef and magnesium test kits.
d) Aim at stable temperature. In small tanks as ours, temp changes can happen very fast.

Pepetj
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Old September 8th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Thanks so much Mike and Pepe! Man I am super excited to start a saltwater tank. It's not as intimidating as I once thought. I'll ask around my LFS for some other advice/recomendations too. I'll have to do a ton of research first tho lol. Thanks again!
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Old September 10th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
Remember! Like mine here the LFS is going to want to make a sale. If it wasn't for my FL salty friends I'd be up to my ears with stuff I didn't need, doing things I don't need to do and leaving this hobby all together.
So I guess I can say....Thanks to all my Salty friends here at FL. My little 8g nano is doing wonderful!!!
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Old September 12th, 2009  
Fish Bum
 
get or make a algae scruber u dont need any other filtration just a power hear or 2
hear is a link to the thread on algae scrubers Mega Powerful Nitrate and Phosphate Remover - DIY!
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