Daniel

hey im goimg to set up a 90 litre and im new to salt what type of first timer fish should i get?

bhcaaron

You'll want hardy fish. Here's a list http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/s...fm?pCatId=1926
But, before you do that, why don't you tell us what you know? Have you read about the Nitrogen Cycle? http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm Its a MUST read. Also there are some things you should know about the water that will go in the tank, http://www.fishlore.com/WaterChemistry.htm

Here's some good points on setting things up.
http://www.fishlore.com/SaltwaterBeginners.htm

Seems like a shore, I know. I've been reading up and researching for a month now and I'm still not ready to start my tank. However, if all this learning seems like a shore, it might be a foreshadowing that marine aquariums may not be the thing for you. But, if you're willing to learn... FISHLORE members are the best at helping you out! Trust me!

Daniel

well i know about the setting up part and how to clean the tank and i know about the nitrogen cycle how you have to wait for the ammonia and nitrate levels go up then down but i just need to know how much fish can go in a 90 litre and what to get so yeah thats how much i know about marine fish tanks

Daniel

I was thinking of a pair of clownfish , a group of damsel fish , a dwarf angel fish , and mabye a firefish gobie. Would all these species be easly compatable.And would all these fish fit in a 90 litre. And sorry for my bad spelling im that good at spelling lol!

bhcaaron

Here's a compatibility chart on marine fish
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/c...lity_chart.cfm

Once again go through the suggested list of fish for beginners. Click on the ones you like and the paragraph will tell you a little info on them, including how much space they need and a few compatible fish. For your 90L (aprox 23G (US Gal)) You'll probably only be able to have one fish. Try to get one who does best in solitud as opposed to needing a school for family or a shoal of mates. Keeping a tank that size for marine beginner, however, will be very difficult. Unfortunately, with salties, bigger is better. Read up, research, study. Once you have enough info to get started, go back and look it all up again. Understand that keeping a smaller saltie is not impossible. It will just require much more devotion than a larger one.

Daniel

so do you mean with a 23 gallon i can only get one fish like litreay just one

Daniel

i know that on that chart of beginners fish its says lot of them need size of 30 gallon would it matter if i but them in a tank of 23 gallon would that make much of a difference?

Wolfgang8810

im thinking about a marine tank but its still a long way off. from the research ive done i have read that in a marine aquarium you need 3 gallons per inch of fish so with a 23 gallon tank you can have about 7 total full grown inches of fish

bhcaaron

Unfortunately, Wolfgang, these rule of thumbs don't work like with freshwater. There may be rules of thumb for certain fish, however, it is not the same for all.

Daniel,

As for the fish that require a minimum 30G, just think, you'd have a tank that is already 10G too small. As for just ONE fish, YES, this means just ONE single fish. Try looking at the nano fish. You may be able to find one that is ok in a 20G tank. Since your's is a bit bigger, it'll just make it happier.

Daniel

hey what about the fish like firefish gobies and the ocellaris clownfish and the types that go in a 20 gallon would thoses fish be alright to have a couple in a 23 gallon?

bhcaaron

Do you like this one?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...cfm?pCatId=155

bhcaaron

Or this one?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...fm?pCatId=1428

This one actually req less than you have, so you could keep a couple.

"A 10-gallon or larger aquarium with a cave and peaceful tank mates is suitable for this slow and methodical swimmer. It tends to hide in sea grass or other plants, or may use long spined urchins for camouflage. If a larger aquarium is available, it will handle a small group of this species. As a group, they will establish a strict hierarchy without aggressiveness."

Daniel

I like the goby but not the cardinal. would a pair of ocellaris clwonfish and one firefish goby work plus that goby you gave an image of to me?

bhcaaron

Somehow I think that would be overkill on the tank. Even if you can do wonders in keeping it in top shape, do you really want your fishies to suffer with room issues because you want that collection? Find out all you can on ocellaris. Go to the library and request books, look online, and ask other salties here on FishLore and any other place you can. Go to LFS's and ask them, HOWEVER, always double check on books and from experts what ever the shop keepers tell you... TRUST ME!

bhcaaron

Look at the tank bred Ocellaris Clown, the tank bred Black and White Ocellaris and the Teardrop Ocellaris on liveaquaria. Maybe you can get away with just two of one of these.

Daniel

so are you telling me that in a 23 gallon I can only have one pair of clownfish and thats it

Wolfgang8810

then some inverts and such

Daniel

wat type of inverts