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January 20th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Setting up a 100L/26gal
Hi.
'Fraid even though i'm reading setting up a sw tank articles, i still have to ask questions.
Ok as the heading says the tanks to be something around a 100L and a FOWLER setup.
I went to a big fish store today and asked them to price the equipment needed. I got the equipment list from Fishlore's article. But somethings they left out such as saltwater mix. Then what they put on was T5 lighting. On the little i read on t5 lighting i get the idea its for bigger setups, am i right? Or is it needed.
They also listed...
Undergravel filter
2 x R1000 powerhead
aquaclear.
I intend using a power filter so is the aquaclear still needed? I 've no intention in using a undergravel. And are the powerheads right?
Sorry if the question are stupid, i am just starting to understand whats going on!
Last edited by Sabi; January 20th, 2008 at 09:51 AM.
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January 20th, 2008
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T5 lighting : If you are going FOWLR, you do not need T5s. This does not have to do with the size of the setup, but with what you are planning to keep in it. If you were planning a reef setup T5s would be a good suggestion, as many corals have strong lighting needs. For fish only, T5s are overkill. Expensive overkill at that.
Undergravel filter : You do not need an undergravel filter.
Powerheads : Yes, you need them. You want 20x your tank's volume in water flow. They keep water circulating through the live rock, which provides the biological filtering for the tank. Good water circulation also discourages nuisance algae/cyano growth.
Power filter : Aquaclear is a power filter, so I do not fully understand your question. In a SW setup, protein skimming is going to be more important than traditional mechanical filtering. If you are prioritizing equipment, I would look into a protein skimmer before any power filter.
There are no stupid questions!
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January 20th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Nice to know!
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgould
Power filter : Aquaclear is a power filter, so I do not fully understand your question. In a SW setup, protein skimming is going to be more important than traditional mechanical filtering. If you are prioritizing equipment, I would look into a protein skimmer before any power filter.
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I have been checking out the protein skimmers, so far i havn't found the correct one. Either they are 'the waste of money ones' or too big for my size tank.
And yeah i dont understand the listing either, thats why i asked here. They listed ug filter as well as the aquaclear. So they are both filters, and a power filter is what we want, right.
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January 20th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sgould
T5 lighting : If you are going FOWLR, you do not need T5s. This does not have to do with the size of the setup, but with what you are planning to keep in it. If you were planning a reef setup T5s would be a good suggestion, as many corals have strong lighting needs. For fish only, T5s are overkill. Expensive overkill at that.
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Ah thanks. R650 is what they priced the t5 and it was the most expensive thing on the list! Ok, so would normal fluorescent lighting be fine?
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January 20th, 2008
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For FOWLR, yes. Though I would suggest using a reef bulb (basically a 50/50 daylight/actinic) to bring out the colors better.
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January 23rd, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Thanks sgould!
Make the tank a 30gal.
Would crushed coral be fine for substarte?
I'm just double checking as i go along...
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January 23rd, 2008
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I prefer aragonite live sand myself, but lots of folks use crushed coral.
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January 25th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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OK.
What test kits are really necessary? I have nitrAte, NitrIte, pH, Ammonia and getting a hydrometer for salinity. Others like for carbonate hardness etc will i really need?
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January 25th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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The test kits you mention will be fine to start out. Keeping a close eye on the others is more for the benifit of reef inhabitants but still won't hurt. I would for sure get a phosphate test kit. Calcium and alkalinity are the next 2 important ones. That should be all the test kit you need for now. If you decide later to go with more than FOWLR then you'll need some others.
Congrats on making the marine tank jump.
It's good to ask questions.
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January 29th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Thanks Gozer. Some of the equipments ordered and i'm waiting for it to come! I'm 80% exited and 20% weary... I was reading about some apitaisia (not sure if i got the name right) thing, that eats anemones and have crashed some ppls tanks, that scared me!
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March 2nd, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Just thought to update.
I've decided to have sump with a dsb as i believe it is a very good for of filtration and will help with more water quantity for a more stable system.
At first i was going to make a homemade one but then decided to get one made. My Dad said he'd take me this week to get everything sorted out. The skimmer i'm still undecided as to what brand to get. Reeftek and reefoctopus seem to be reefers best choice and they make nano types as well but they cost one hefty lot of $$.
So far i've been reading around and changed my my mind on something else too.
A reef tank is MUCH better.
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March 2nd, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sgould
I prefer aragonite live sand myself, but lots of folks use crushed coral.
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With more info and research, thats what i'm going with, straight from the sea.
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March 2nd, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Hi Sabi,
Good to see you steping into marine!
With a 100lt reef tank you will need a chiller to control the temp as the t5 lights are warm.
Good luck with your first marine tank!
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March 6th, 2008
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Fish Addict
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The current tests I run (all seachem, but you can use whatever brand you want)
Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Calcium, Alkalinity and pH.
With a good quality reef salt (again, I use Seachem) alot of the trace minerals etc will be replenished with weekly water changes. Until you start getting some calcium hungry corals, I wouldn't even worry about alot of the other additives.
Peter, maybe I'm thinking of something else, but aren't t5's just High Output Florescents? I didn't know they raised the temp significantly (****runs to check temps on tanks****)
Hope this helps
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March 6th, 2008
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T-5's aren't that bad...a little heat, but nothing excessive. MH, on the other hand...
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March 22nd, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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As i'm going to go reef in due course would t5 be the right lighting?
Test kits i should have by monday...Calcium, alkalinity and phosphate
Last edited by Sabi; March 22nd, 2008 at 06:04 PM.
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March 23rd, 2008
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Fish Addict
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You can use t5s for certain corals: polyps and mushrooms would be the best. Once you start getting into some LPS ans SPS or even soft corals, you might want to research some different lighting. Or you could just research which corals will do best under t5 lighting.... the possibilities are endless
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March 23rd, 2008
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Fish Helper
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I just installed some T5's as I too am adding corals into my tank. However, I've come to be very careful and critical about which corals can actually sustain my lighting. And at what depth. Have fun with that.. you'll love em when you turn them on the first time.
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