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Old August 1st, 2009  
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as the title said.

i have a 150g they are aggressive with each other. Well they dont mouth lock but 1 chase the other. should i buy more ram to calm them?

Oh btw how do i know if they are bolivian or german? they were sold as ballon and long finned brought 1 of each.

Last edited by Shawnie; August 1st, 2009 at 08:59 PM. Reason: please use the edit button for back to back posts :) TY
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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Could you post pics? Also, what other fish are in the tank and what are your water parameters? 150g sounds like plenty of space, so the aggression isn't making sense to me.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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Thats a huge tank, i'd figure territories be established on either sides of aquarium... pictures would help, as would a list of what else is in your tank.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
ill post them tomorrow they are slepeing now but like they dont fight unless they see each other

i have a lot of plant/driftwood

with

6 tiger barb
6 rosy barb
7 corydoras arched
2 gourami opaline
2 gourami pearl
1 galaxy pleco
1 bulldog pleco

they are all peace full epxept the opaline that one chase the other when he see him but since there a lot of plant he lose himself and stop chasing
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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How long and how far does the chasing last?
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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Oh btw how do i know if they are bolivian or german? they were sold as ballon and long finned brought 1 of each.
The coloration between the two is fairly different, so just comparing what you have to pictures of either should let you know. Good pictures of each species can be seen in these threads:

Sexing German Blue Rams
Sexing Bolivian Rams

That said, "long-finned" and "balloon" are strains usually associated with the german blue ram.
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Old August 1st, 2009  
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yeah the baloon looked like the german but the other one look like the bolivian (color) but his eye is red

and they chase for the time they see each other? wow they are my slowest fish after my plecos.. they swim really slow compare to my barbs

if they are blue german they are both males.
should i add 2 females?

Last edited by Chopstick; August 1st, 2009 at 09:51 PM.
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Old August 2nd, 2009  
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they mouth lock now but its not often they chase a bit. Like one chase the other and after 2-3 sec he get tired and go swim somewhere else. Heres the picture

http://img132.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dsc01421f.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/dsc01421f.jpg/

http://img35.imageshack.us/i/dsc01468j.jpg/

http://img35.imageshack.us/i/dsc01468j.jpg/

on the 3rd pic his is not bitten its just the angle. Should i aadd more female? and hide spot like caves?
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Old August 2nd, 2009  
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i agree, they look different, in the third picture, the one on the right looks like a german blue, and the left one looks like a bolivian. I think more shelters and caves should do this some good, if not, do you think you could take one or the other back to the store?
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Old August 2nd, 2009  
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they are wierd they dont have a return policy but they have a guarantee (if the fish dies)...
and im not going to kill it. so ill probably buy 1 bolivian female and 1 german blue female and add 2-3 caves to my 150 G

bolivian ram are really hard to sex

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Old August 2nd, 2009  
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they are wierd they dont have a return policy but they have a guarantee (if the fish dies)...
and im not going to kill it. so ill probably buy 1 bolivian female and 1 german blue female and add 2-3 caves to my 150 G

bolivian ram are really hard to sex
You have two GBRs. I'd buy 3-4 females of the same species if you are lucky enough to find them.
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Old August 4th, 2009  
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Most fish stores don't accept returns due to compatability. However, most of the time if you ask them to simply take the fish back for nothing in return they will accept the fish back. It sucks to lose the money, but it's a cheap lesson and the fish don't suffer. I had to do this with a fish I bought. I think my corys are still shell shocked from that fish chasing them. A 150g is massive though for 2 Rams. Wierd.
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Old August 4th, 2009  
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They are german blue and look like 2 males....as mentioned above a couple of females would help or ee if you and exchange one male for a female.
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Old August 5th, 2009  
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Most fish stores don't accept returns due to compatability. However, most of the time if you ask them to simply take the fish back for nothing in return they will accept the fish back. It sucks to lose the money, but it's a cheap lesson and the fish don't suffer. I had to do this with a fish I bought. I think my corys are still shell shocked from that fish chasing them. A 150g is massive though for 2 Rams. Wierd.
At less those rams doesnt fight animore but one of the GBR ( the more colored one ) found his territory under a driftwood and chase every other fish that goes near it. The one is peaceful and swim reallly slow.

150g not for only 2 rams lol i got other fish xP look at my profile
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Old August 15th, 2009  
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i brought 3 females and one of them is still very agressive (more territorial) ( but hes the one that is really colorful ) Should i give it back to the LFS?
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