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Old June 3rd, 2009  
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Please help sexing my Bolivian Butterfly's

Hi,

I have these 2 Bolivian Butterflies, and was wondering if anyone can tell if they are the same sex or not?




The one witht the dwarf gourami in the back ground bites at the other one sometimes.

Any ideas??

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Old June 3rd, 2009  
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The fish in the top picture is a male, but I can't tell on the bottom picture.

Can you try to get another picture of that one? Most helpful would be a shot from the side, with the ventral area (between pectoral fins and tail fin) clearly visible and pectoral fins extended.
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Old June 3rd, 2009  
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sweet thx mathas, i'll try to get the shot but that little bugger isnt making it easy,lol
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Old June 3rd, 2009  
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I dont think i'll be able to get the pic for a while. Is there any common behaviour to observe with having 2 males or 2 females or 1 of each, as the one in the bottom pic snaps at the other one when it goes near a certain area the bottom one is hangning aound at the moment
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Old June 3rd, 2009  
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I dont think i'll be able to get the pic for a while. Is there any common behaviour to observe with having 2 males or 2 females or 1 of each, as the one in the bottom pic snaps at the other one when it goes near a certain area the bottom one is hangning aound at the moment
That sounds like a male guarding his territory, which would give you two males, but behavior isn't always 100% effective at determining sex (especially with cichlids).

Most of the time that's how my males act, but I've seen my females chase the boys away at times too.
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Old June 4th, 2009  
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Hi,

I dont think im going to be able to get the shot, i got these ones, its the best i can get i think. They have different shaped heads. the one you said is a male has more of a ram head, is that because its younger?
..

thats as good as i can do
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Old June 4th, 2009  
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the males are usually much more colorful and males also sport 2 spikes on the front of their dorsal fins. males are much more common than females.
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Old June 4th, 2009  
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Thanks mathas and bad wolf,
I'm guessing looking at your post on sexing them mathas, and the way they are behaving they are both males. I just hope the bullying doesnt get too much. He doesnt chase the other one all around the tank, just out of the area he seems to have claimed.

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Old June 4th, 2009  
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I dont think im going to be able to get the shot, i got these ones, its the best i can get i think. They have different shaped heads. the one you said is a male has more of a ram head, is that because its younger?
..

thats as good as i can do
This one also appears to be a male.

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I just hope the bullying doesnt get too much. He doesnt chase the other one all around the tank, just out of the area he seems to have claimed.
That's normal behavior. They aren't really aggressive fish, but they are territorial... once the intruder is chased out, they seem to stop caring.
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Old June 6th, 2009  
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yeah they arent too bad, the 3 male dwarf gouramis fight a **** of alot more, but its not out of control. I spoke to the LFS and he said there werent many females around. i might have a look on the net to see if i can find any.
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