platy ben

I understand it is recommended that a pair of german blue rams need atleast 20 Gallons.
I was wondering if i kept on top of my water changes and had only the pair of rams in the tank, could i keep them in a 15G?

Amanda

I'm not sure if there's be enough swimming room in a 15g.

Shaina

Floor space is the most important thing...so even for a 20 gal I would recommend a 20L.

If you do try it, get a m/f pair and make sure there are more hiding places than fish, and lots of line of sight breaks. As long as you practice good aquarium maintenance they should be fine on that end...two alone isn't overstocking the tank in that regard. It's more of a territory issue.

platy ben

Here some pics of the tank, its completly bare at the moment as i only set it up around 2 hours ago

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CHoffman

I have a 16 gallon tank that is the same foot print as a 20gallon tall...Does your's happen to be a 16??

platy ben

hold on il measure and put it in the aquarium calculator

platy ben

Nope mines 14.96G to be exact.

CHoffman

Ok...I thought maybe if it was that extra gallon would help you....lol.

If you don't end up with the rams...Take a look at these guys..This is what I put in my 16 gallon..They can be in 15gallons..They are a very neat fish, and very pretty too IMO...Here is the link.....http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/n_brichardi.php

Iron waffle

I think 2 rams would be more than ok, if it's a male/female. Keep an eye out for aggression if any starts to happen.

How do you find space for so many tanks?

platy ben

Thanks for the suggestion Cesch but i really wnat to keep to dwarf cichlids (preferably american)

4 of my tanks are in my bedroom spider lol, il take a pic soon

Jonah

Ben is that 15Uk gals or 15 US gals? it makes a big diff if US folks know that 15uk is about 18US

platy ben

thats US Gals

Jonah

Sorry Bud tried to get you an extra 3 gals there and failed

agabr123

personally i think it would be a bit cramped having the two in there it wouldn't be overstocked but i'd be worried about aggression. it would probably be okay if they used more of the aquarium but they really stay in the bottom section.

platy ben

Il try a pair but il make the tank has lots of places where they can break line of sight, and if worst comes to worst i will act ASAP

edit* Ive got plenty of time to arrange and decide as i only filled the tank with water today .

Just a quick Question, is it possible to lower the pH of water without using chemicals?

Amanda

Breaking line of sight really isn't an issue. It's that there isn't enough swimming room.

agabr123

yep, driftwood works really well to do that

platy ben

Great, thanks everyone for the help so far

platy ben

Just a qeustion i just thought of, if i was to go ahead with this would it be best to add the female first?

agabr123

i'd add them at the same time

Gunner11

Another thing to think about with blue rams is they do a lot better in an older established tank...you might want to wait until your tank has been running awhile.