0morrokh

I would love to set up a tank with Endlers, Rams, and Neons. First of all, these fish are compatible, right? What size tank would I need?(I don't know how big Rams get...) I would like some info on breeding Rams as well as general info on them and Endlers. Thanks in advance.

fish_r_friend

endlers are small livebearing fish from Venezuela with males 1inch and females at 2 inches

Dino

The rams will wind up eatting the neons and endlers.
Or killing them, if they spawn and the endlers/neons get to close to the nest.

Dino

0morrokh

seriously?!! That's not good....
I've been reading about them and everything says you can keep rams with tetras. But if I've learned one thing it's not to trust most sites about compatibility... :P
So, what can you keep Rams with?

fish_r_friend

tims tropicals says that they are compatible with Dwarf Neon Rainbows

Dino

What you need to look for is a fish that also likes higher temps and softer water, that is not small enough to fit into an adult rams mouth.

Rummy nose tetras come to mind.
They are twice the size of neons and endlers and like the same conditions as rams.

Dino

0morrokh

Ooh Rummy Noses--those are so pretty! They sometimes have a big shoal at my lfs.
One question, how big do Rummy Noses and Rams get?

Dino

Rams usually get between 2-3 inches as an adult size.
Rummies get to about 2 inches.

Dino

0morrokh

Ok thanks. Am I right that Rams are supposed to be kept as one male to several females?

Dino

Yes, but it had best be a minimum of a 30 gallon long tank to do so.

Dino

0morrokh

Oh...guess I probably won't be getting Rams any time too soon. :P

Dino

A single pair can be kept in a 10 or 15 gallon tank, as long as there are plenty of hiding places for the female to get away from the male.

Dino

0morrokh

Oh ok! *the hope is returning!*
I have seen Rams at my lfs and I just love them. I just don't know the first thing about Cichlids.
I want too many kinds of fish. I'll just have to win the lottery, then I can buy them all.
What are some other good tankmates for Rams that could be kept in a 10 or 15 gallon tank? (I'm assuming Rummies need a bigger tank than that)

240gordy

I'm looking for a schooling fish. do Rummy nose tetras or endlers school?

Dino

Rummies school.
Endlers, the males chase the females, CONSTANTLY.

Dino

ecnaj143

ALL Tetras school. You can have them single, but they'll be depressed and hide ALL the time.