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May 10th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper
| How many goldfish?
I am going to setup a 100g pond soon. I was wondering how many common and shubunkin goldfish could i have in it? | 
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May 10th, 2009
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| | Fish Addict
| Out of curiosity, how deep is it going to be? Do you know your filtration system and all that? Better filters = more fish available. I remember reading about pond stocking levels on a big information site about ponds... | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| Also, this isnt from the site that I saw before, but this sounds similar to it:
To assess how many fish your pond will support, estimate its surface area and allow 60sq cm of surface for every 1 cm of fish (equivalent to 24 sq. inches per inch of fish). Since fish grow and breed, it is best to start off with around one-third of the theoretical maximum number. For example, a 1.8 x 1.2m (6ft x 4ft) pond will, in theory, support 360cm (144ins) of fish, equivalent to 36 individuals averaging 10cm (4ins)long, but, in practice, you should have only about 12.
Golden Rule - Your pond needs to have part of the area at least 60cm deep for goldfish and 1.5m or more for Koi if they are to be left over winter safely in the pond.
From here
I would continue to seek information on the internet and the advice of goldfish and pond experts, even on other forums with larger cold/temperate fish subforums. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| | Fish Helper
| I think it's about 1.5 or 2 foot deep.
I will be making the filter my self with a tall trash can with lava rock as the biomedia for the bacteria and filter floss to remove the leaves and stuff in the water.
But i don't have to worry about the pond freezing because i am in south texas and i haven't seen the temp get below 35 F in 5 years.
Last edited by Paleofish; May 10th, 2009 at 07:32 PM.
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May 10th, 2009
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| Cool. If you know the measurements of the pond, you should be able to do a tentative fish count using a conversion like what I posted before. (Like I said though, I'm not sure if that's a good one or not, and I would try to find some more to see if it is consistent with other people's guides) | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| Ok i will try to get the measurements of the pond monday when the LPS is open.
Thanks and I sure hope i can keep more then two goldfish lol  | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| no problem. Have you considered how you are going to keep the tank cool? Ponds can heat up pretty significantly. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| I will be putting it under a movable gazebo and It will be under the shade most of the day, Which should keep it nice and cool. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| cool. glad you're a step ahead of me  | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| Thanks! | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| What would make better pond goldfish for the size pond i am getting. Fancy goldfish or single tailed goldfish? | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| I would love to have a pond full of comets
I don't know what would be better for the size of the pond, but fancies are harder to keep outside | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| I just talked to a friend of mine and She said common goldfish need 50g of water each because they can get 2 foot
I guess if i want commons i will need a bigger pound or just keep TWO in the pond.
I guess i will just have to get fancies or a bunch of colorful cichlids because two goldfish just don't seem as nice as a school of them. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| did she say that in reference to ponds? I don't know.... But comets really do get that big, yes. They also live for a long, long time | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| Yeah. But also commons are a bit "thicker" then comets.
I really can't get a bigger pond, So i guess i will just have to live with fancies or cichlids. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| | Fish Master
| I'd be wary of putting cichlids in an outdoor pond... | 
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May 10th, 2009
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| Why? People down here do it all the time and i have a heater to keep them warm in the winter. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| B/c I would think they'd be more susceptible to the fluctuations in a pond. | |
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May 10th, 2009
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| Good point, But i know a guy that is more north then me and he grows out his fry in ponds.
But anyway i will probably be putting 4 or 5 shubunkins or 7 or 8 fantails in the pond. | |
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May 11th, 2009
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| Shubunkins are basically the same size/shape as comets. In 100 gallon pond, with a good filter/waterfall type set up (for aeration as well as cleaning), you could have 6-7 goldfish easily. The main thing is good filtration and swimming room. My pond is roughly 180 gallons. I think, right now, I probably have about 15-20 goldies in it. I have more than I should, but I also have a larger filter than required and two waterfalls with multiple pools that act as extra filters. Here are a couple pics of my pond at feeding time. | |
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May 11th, 2009
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| Oh - and here is a pic of my female shubunkin and one of my comet females...so you can compare. I put them in a 2.5 gallon for pictures. | |
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May 11th, 2009
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| your tank is so pretty! thanks for chiming in on numbers | |
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May 11th, 2009
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| Thanks very much! This pond is going to be great! | |
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May 12th, 2009
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| Ok i decided i am going to get Wakin for my pond. Since they are smaller and have a small fantail.
I will probably have 5 or 6 in the pond. | |
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May 15th, 2009
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| Hm it seems this one Wakin got to 18" | |
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May 15th, 2009
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| oh no haha... good luck on your choices though! | |
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May 16th, 2009
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| Yep i hope everything goes well with the setup and everything. | |
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