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Old June 6th, 2008  
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I have pond fish in a twenty gallon tank

I really only have fish that dont really belong in such a small tank such as two kois and an arowana and I used to have a big common pleco. Just wanted to let people know since sometimes people tell me about stuff but I will hopefully work on it but I dont have sufficient money so I cant get apond or a bigger aquarium and I have this other aquarium that isnt set up with rat urine in it and the guy I got it from used to keep chickens in it and I dont really want to use it even if its washed. I might use itif it is really washed and it needs a lid and filter and other stuff.

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Old June 6th, 2008  
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If it is true that you have two koi, an arowana and a pleco in a 20g tank, I would very strongly suggest returning all of them to the petstore. If they survive, they will be very, very uncomfortable. It would be the equivalent of a person living in a 4'x4' room his entire life.

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Old June 6th, 2008  
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I have this other aquarium that isnt set up with rat urine in it and the guy I got it from used to keep chickens in it and I dont really want to use it even if its washed.
Huh?
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Old June 13th, 2008  
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how big are the fish?
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Old June 13th, 2008  
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The fish are not so big but I would say they will not so soon but not so late outgrow the tank. But my pond is not even started but have the basic idea of it just need to finish the garden then my dad can get a permit and building will start and the house also needs fixis here and there so it might take a while and I am scared that my fish will die in a small tank. I hope it is finished in time and I am amazed how fast they grow. The more you feed them the more they grow but I have my hopes up.
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Old June 13th, 2008  
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those fish need a bigger tank, and you are not giving them the home they need, I agree you should take them back to the store until you can afford the proper tank for them. how would you like to be stuffed in a closet w/ about 5 of your best friends for a few weeks until someone could afford a bigger room for you?

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Old June 14th, 2008  
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The arrowana will get VERY big - the koi will continue to grow and will also get quite large. i would return these fish to the store and once you get a pond set up and running, then purchase goldfish (instead of koi). they are cheaper, just as pretty as koi, and more tolerant of varying water conditions.
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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I really dont want them to go because I have had them for about four years and they were some of my first fish but the second type of fish I got they went from a ten gallon to a twenty gallon but I might be able to do something such as put them in a bigger tank but the main problem is there is not much space to put the tank and I guess they make a good addition to the living room but the tank is fifty five gallons. I think. I should really stop thinking and start making sure but that tank cando for now. Can it?I hope it can but it needs a real good wash before I add water and fish. I think it can do for a few months while they outgrow it. I will try to completely disinfict it and the fish arent that big but need thier space. They still have growing room.

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Old June 14th, 2008  
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is the 55 gal where the chickens and rats were? bit confused here. if so i think i read some where that it was unhealthy for a tank that had other animals in it for fish in it afterwards something about the urine possibly poisoning the fish. not sure cant remember to well
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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Dude you need to think about what your doing because right now you are not doing the right thing for these fish. Take the fish back to the store until you can house them properly.
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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I hope that image helps you decide. I really really dont want to give them back is it enough for now or a few months keeping in mind they grow pretty fast. They grew like that in four years and my friend's grew alot faster.

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Old June 14th, 2008  
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I hope that image helps you decide. I really really dont want to give them back is it enough for now or a few months keeping in mind they grow pretty fast. They grew like that in four years and my friends grew alot faster.
decide what? there's really nothing to decide.those fish are too big for that tank
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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I know it but dont want to except it. I just dont want them to go.
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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well I know you dont want them to die...so at least try to get a bigger tank or see if someone with a bigger tank wants them..right?
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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Can they be there for two more months? THen I will setup a larger tank for them. I wish they could saty there for two more monnths. I hope they can.
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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you can keep them there as long as you want, they are your fish..but they might not live..they have been in that tank for 4 years and Im very surprised they havent died...a single koi needs alot more space not to mention the arowana..you take a chance everyday of them not making it..but in the end, its your choice not anyone elses
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Old June 14th, 2008  
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That dose not make me feel better but I dont think I can set up a tank in a porch or can I but I need something fast and my mom said that I should set it up on the porch but is that okay? There is not much room in the house and people could jump the fence and steel my fish but I have dogs dont I. I am still very sad. So sad that I dont want to post a sad face. Dont mind my signiture that sadens me more.

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Old June 15th, 2008  
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have you ever heard of a group called "monster fish rescue" ? they are put together for people like you to get fish off you hands when you cannot properly house them. your fish are widely known for not being housed in tanks sufficent enough. I would look them up and get in touch with those people, then you could feel good about giving up your fish, those people would baby your fish and find good homes for them.
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