pinkfloydpuffer

Aw man, my mom likes John Denver

Hey, I have long hair too!!!
and 2 guitars..... and probably 500+ albums....

sirdarksol

You know, PinkFloydPuffer, there are plenty of folks who said the same thing about Floyd, and Zeppelin, and rock and roll in general (not to mention each form that followed from that) not qualifying as music.

Edit: Oh, yeah, and this is the third time in half an hour I've had to merge two of your back-to-back posts. Please use the multi-quote button or I'll have to send the men in black suits.

haedra

I have long hair, but I'm a female so I guess that's no big deal, huh.

Amanda

lol John.
You sounds like me & my friends.

jgon_

Haha, we need a Fishlore meet up so everyone in this thread can just rock out!

Amanda

Yeah!!
That would be crazy, lol.

spider_pig

How can you guys hate rap? It's not all profanty and whatnot. I'm a fan of rap, i love its flow. i don't like 50 cent, he's too gangsta. I love rock too, it's so energetic.

Amanda

I focus more on the MUSICAL aspect of any genre. And with rap, there isn't much music. It's someone talking very fast to a synthetic beat.

jgon_

Yup, among other reasons (social, cultural), hiphop and rap hold no musical weight for me.

sirdarksol

Not necessarily. There is melody, harmony, and rhythm (okay, the last is a given) in a lot of rap.

Amanda

I don't think so.
It's nothing compared to, IMO, real music.
I was a vocal student & band student in MS & HS, so rap does not hold to the definition of "music" to me.

pinkfloydpuffer

Then they don't know what music is

And, I start writing the response before someone else posts that I want to respond to, so then I respond to them.... I do not know how to both edit and quote at the same time. The buttons don't seem to work that way

Oh... so that's who those guys are that I keep seeing following me in the shadows......

CHoffman

I like rap, it has a good flow. It's not my favorite for sure but it is fun to clean house too..lol..50 Cent has some good songs but like I said not my favorite.

Amanda

You know what's good to clean to?
The Beatles.
Just clean & sing as loud as you can.

sirdarksol

I don't think you can edit and quote at the same time, so that's fine. It was just odd that it was three times in the same day and I've never seen you back-to-back post before this.

Amanda: I'm not saying you should like or listen to it, I'm just saying there is melody and harmony in quite a bit of rap.
Melody is: "the succession of single tones in musical compositions, as distinguished from harmony and rhythm."
and Harmony is: "the simultaneous combination of tones, esp. when blended into chords pleasing to the ear; chordal structure, as distinguished from melody and rhythm."

Since much of rap music involves tones that are more than simple beats, and utilizes overlapping tones that are more than simple beats, it has melody and harmony. Maybe not to everyone's tastes, and definitely not always in the vocals (but sometimes even then), but it's there.

pinkfloydpuffer

HECK YEAH! That's what I'm talking about!!!!

jgon_

YES! And Procol Harum for me, my favorite band. They're like my ultimate sing-a-long band for when I'm driving.

Amanda

Ok, ok.
Melody & harmony are there.
But not from REAL instruments (most of the time).
Some synthesizers just don't qualify for me.