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View Poll Results: Is it humane to use smaller fish as feeder fish | |
Yes it's perfectly humane!
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No it's just plain wrong
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*runs around in circles*
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*drools*
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| Feeder fish humane? just wondering peoples opinions  |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| personally i think its wrong, cause they dont hav a fair chance to get away cause their trapped in a tank. if they had a place to run i would find it humane |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| I give feeders about once a month, but I do feel bad for the fish in overcrowded tanks used just for that purpose..but , I also feel bad for over crowded rat/mice cages, frozenkrill, etc...sometimes the circle of life is crool  ..but im learning the feeders arent very good as feeders so im thinking of backing off on feeding them to my fish... |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Bum
| I'm wondering... is this just fish, or are you including feeder shrimo too?
My Freshwater Moray Eel eats ghost shrimp on a regular basis [rather, is starting to] and gets feeder guppies [which I breed myself in their own tank] as treats. My feeders are not fed straight from a store. They live rather nicely in their own little tank. |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| g;lkhfsj every type of feeder |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Mine get frozen bloodworms, frozen krill, feeder fish, n pellets..although my daughter threw a cherios in once..they loved it but oscars are known to eat anything that didnt eat them first |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
| Not Humane! I think it is sad. I hate it when my dad goes ice fishing because he always uses Rosy Reds are bait! I am totally against it! I hate fishing all together! |
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March 16th, 2008
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| | Fish Bum
| Oscars are wonderful! My mom had a 14 inch tiger oscar and a 12 inch albino for years and years. She didn't feed them live fish because she was afraid of the diseases that they can carry and didn't feel like breading her own. Apparenty, one 100GL tank was enough for her. =]
Oh, and btw... anyone want to take a guess what pellet food [and some flakes I think] is made out of?
Fish. Go figure. The only difference is if your fish gets the natural experience of getting to hunt like it would in the wild. Besides, taking care of an animal shouldn't be about what you want that animal to have, but what is best for the animal. Last edited by sirdarksol; March 17th, 2008 at 11:53 AM.
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March 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor
| Perfectly humane. Altho i will feel bad for the fish, the bigger uns need the food. |
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March 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| perfectly humane, i fed guppies to my baby Oscar, tho i would suggest to breed your own feeder fish or at least quarantine them before feeding them to your fish, they r often full of diseases. |
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March 17th, 2008
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| | Moderator
| Quote:
Originally Posted by August_Jacque Oh, and btw... anyone want to take a guess what pellet food [and some flakes I think] is made out of?
Fish. Go figure. The only difference is if your fish gets the natural experience of getting to hunt like it would in the wild. Besides, taking care of an animal shouldn't be about what you want that animal to have, but what is best for the animal. | knowing that our fish food contains fishmeal.. is not the same thing as feeding your fish a live fish. Fish flakes and frozen worms,shrimp are not wiggling and fleeing from attack. The question/Poll was how do you feel about feeding your fish live foods...
Totally understandable is that some fish require live foods. Its our choice then to decide if we want to keep that type of fish knowing the requirements.
Im also glad to know that there are supplemental foods available now with all the dietary requirements needed if someone didnt want to feed live fish.
~ kate |
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March 17th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| It's what would happen in the wild, not that most aquarium fish have ever experienced that. Still, if that is what is best for the fish, I would do it. Nature isn't pretty most of the time. |
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March 17th, 2008
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| | Moderator
| I don't have a problem with using smaller fish as feeders, but I do have issues with the feeder fish tanks at the pet stores. Aside from having little or no nutritional value because of the way they're kept, these fish are basically tortured from birth. In my opinion, it's better to keep a feeder tank of your own, with a self-sustaining population of livebearers. |
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March 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| I don't understand why people say feeder fish is inhumane! we humans r killing thousands of chickens, cows, pigs and other fish everyday just to eat them! now a 2" feeder fish deserves more humanity than a 10' cow! i don't thinks so! |
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March 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by Neville I don't understand why people say feeder fish is inhumane! we humans r killing thousands of chickens, cows, pigs and other fish everyday just to eat them! now a 2" feeder fish deserves more humanity than a 10' cow! i don't thinks so! | Good Point!
Also, the animals eating the feeders require the stimulation of "the hunt" to stay happy and healthy. We try to replicate natural environments when we keep these animals, not impose our own notion of nature as we see fit.
I give my turtle fish every so often and he really thrives on it. His entire demeanor changes when he spots a fish and the hunting behaviors are very good for him. He stays fit, alert, and active.
The result is the same for basically all predators, they NEED the live feed for mental wellbeing.
Besides, some animals (like most amphibians) simply will not eat anything that's not alive. They need live food because of the way their brain is wired. |
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March 18th, 2008
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| | Fish Lore Newbie
| is it humane to feed fish store made food rather than what they would eat out in the wild naturally? Some would say keeping fish in an aquarium isn't humane....Buhidist(sp) don't kill any living thing not even flys!  |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | King of Curt
| ... Plants are living, do they not eat plants either? (Playing devils advocate a little bit, but part of this is true speculation) How can we prove that plants don't feel pain? Neville made a good point about the livestock that humans consume, they have no real chance of escape either. I do feel sorry for the livestock that has to live its life only to be eatten, and I wouldn't want to have to live that same life... but I still eat cow, chicken, pig, bird, fish, etc.
So I guess it would be hypocritical of me to say feeders are morally wrong... (especially since I use feeders for several of my fish) |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | Fish Lore Newbie
| I dont eat meat but I will feed live food go figure. |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | Moderator
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Originally Posted by norine kushner I dont eat meat but I will feed live food go figure. | My Mom doesn't eat meat. She doesn't touch or prepare meat for humans. However, she makes homemade food for her dog, and there's always some sort of meat in it. I think it's the greatest respect for your animals that you feed them what they should be eating, whether or not you like it.  |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
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Originally Posted by norine kushner I dont eat meat but I will feed live food go figure. | makes perfect sense. As I was saying, we humans can't decide how we think nature should work. Animals that hunt, NEED to hunt.
But you have rational and physical control over your diet, so eat what you want! |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | Moderator
| While my husband is deciding if he wants to start a cichlid tank, oscars is what he is thinking of, I have agreed with him that he would be the one to feed the fish live foods. He said that if that is what they need, that he has no problem feeding it to them. So the job would be left up to him to do so..
I will stick to the other tanks lol...  ~ kate |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
| I think its sad that when you put the feeder fish in the tank, they think, if they can, that they are free of those horrible conditions at the LFS, only to get eaten. I have a problem feeding my fish live food, so I dont. |
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March 19th, 2008
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| | Fish Keeper
| I agree that fish who are meant to hunt and eat live foods should be allowed to do so. However, I find the practice personally distasteful despite my greater understanding of why it is done. Therefore, I don't plan on keeping fish that would/should require feeder fish, so that my personal conflict about the situation would not impact the quality of life of any fish. I'll stick to my little demon girl who tries to eat her food scoop and my finger.  |
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March 21st, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| I think it's inhumane and I don't use them, but at the same time I know that fish go into the processed food I use. Either way fish die, but I'd just rather not send them to the slaughter myself and watch them get eaten. |
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March 25th, 2008
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| | Fish Master
| Hi!
Think of it this way: is the LFS exactly humane? I don't use them - no fish to eat them! I'm a small fish person, big tank and small fish! |
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March 25th, 2008
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| | Fish Bum
| Hi i use my guppys and any fish that i might have to many of for my Turtles.Idont feel bad about it as in the wild thats what happens,its nature.As to whether its humain,thats a hard one.They say fish dont feel pain,yet they get stressed.I would say it is humain,its nature. |
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March 25th, 2008
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| | Fish Addict
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Originally Posted by HatchetHaven Hi!
Think of it this way: is the LFS exactly humane? I don't use them - no fish to eat them! I'm a small fish person, big tank and small fish! | Yes, but even so, no fish NEEDS to eat live food. |
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March 25th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| No, I don't think it's right. It's natural in the wild that fish eat other fish, but remember in the wild those smaller fish have a chance to ESCAPE. When you throw the little feeder fish in your tank, they're trapped and have no hope.
Not only that, but it can spread disease. I don't do it. |
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May 22nd, 2008
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| | Fish Mentor
| I think that it is humane to a certaint extent. It is the circle of life but if these fish were mistreated and shoved in horrid crowded cloudy tanks in the back of the lfs then that is wrong. any live food I use has been raised by me. that way I know they werent treated inhumanly before death, and they will only be used to a certaint extent in my feeding regimine. |
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July 7th, 2008
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| | Fish Helper
| They eat eachother in the wild I dont see why not in your tank. |
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