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Old May 9th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
What's with the bristles?

What are the bristles on the bristle noses nose for?
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Helper
 
i wouldnt know but i know that they determine the bristlenoses gender

the ones with bristles are male

and the ones without them are female

fry will all look female until they get older and then bristles will start to form
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Old May 10th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
they are a very delicate fish so make sure the water quality is good and great
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Old May 10th, 2009  
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I don't have any scientific information as to why they have bristles. Seems like they would have to act as some type of sensors...they could alert them to food near by...maybe they feel vibrations...alerting them to danger...will be looking forward to more info on this myself. I'd love to have one
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Old May 10th, 2009  
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maybe its just purely to distinguish between male and females

isnt it funny that badwolf didnt know what they were and he called them britles when they are actually bristles. irony
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
what, when did i call them britles? so no known reason, huh, just wondering. i reckon it's just display, like a lion with its mane to impress the females or the peacock with his colors and feathers to impress the peahen.

anyone tried to breed the BN with multiple males, then find the male with the biggest bristles gets the female and spawns first?
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
ive always viewed the bristles as a defense mechanism. would you wanna take a bite out of one? lol

if you have any interest in them i say go for it! i dont think i would have another tank without one (as long as its suitable )
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Mentor
 
Me too! I keep BN Pleco's in all my tanks except for the betta and Oscar tanks. I even keep them with newborn fry, they're the best algae eaters I know of!
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
thanx
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
whats the difference between calling them plecos and catfish
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Moderator
 
Different species...
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
ok. than you
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Keeper
 
different species, i'm sure they are the same thing. in AUS, where i live, they are called BN catfish but i still call them plecos.
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
i live in australia to. i call them catfish usaually because most LFS' call them catfishes
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Old May 11th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cichlidsmad View Post
i wouldnt know but i know that they determine the bristlenoses gender

the ones with bristles are male

and the ones without them are female

fry will all look female until they get older and then bristles will start to form
there are some fems with bristles....just not as long and not as many
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Old May 11th, 2009  
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What are the bristles on the bristle noses nose for?
The only theory I've seen for the existence of bristles is to mimic fry.

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Why the bushy nose?
Sabaj et al. (1999) offered a very interesting, and plausible, reason why male Ancistrus develop their bushy noses. Sabaj and his fellow researchers observed that male Ancistrus often guard several broods of fry simultaneously. They also observed that female Ancistrus prefer to spawn with males that are already guarding a brood, possibly because these males have demonstrated that they are successful parents. Sabaj et al. thus theorized that males develop their tentacles to mimic the movements and appearance of larvae and thus "trick" females into believing that the male in question is already a successful parent and therefore a good choice as a mate.


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Originally Posted by 11yancazosj View Post
whats the difference between calling them plecos and catfish
Plecos are a type of catfish. All plecos are catfish, but not all catfish are plecos.

If you want to get specific, the term "pleco" refers to a member of the Loricariidae family, which is a subset of the order Siluriformes.
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Old May 11th, 2009  
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Old May 14th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
They're to pick up broadcast signals; fish don't have cable TV...
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Old May 14th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
lol. wat broadcast signals do they pick up
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Old May 14th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
lol I hope they have the digital converter boxes...

My male bristlenose had developed some longer bristles in the past month or so, hes looking pretty cool.
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Old May 14th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
wait until they are fully grown. they are massive
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Old May 14th, 2009  
Moderator
 
The fry theory is good. It may also be a bit of camouflage. The bristles will make the pleco look like a cluster of dead plant matter.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
Fish Lore Newbie
 
i read that a bristlenose will only spawn on one surface or ornament and once it has chosen it, it will only spawn with a chosen female and no others.(sorry if that was a bit confusing)

cheers.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
Any fish will choose the most suitable availablle spawning site. However, female BN's tend to be rather pushy when they're ready to spawn. More than 1 will actually mate with the same male, though not at the same time. It will usually be a coule days before he will accept a second female. I have 2m/2f in a 30 long, and the females tag team the larger male. As soon as one batch of fry moves out there's a fresh clutch of eggs for him to fan.
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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Originally Posted by namehater View Post
ive always viewed the bristles as a defense mechanism. would you wanna take a bite out of one? lol
The bristles really aren't stiff.
The 1st pic is a full grown BN. Notice the bristles.
The2nd pic is the same BN but you can see the Operculum bristles(cheek bristles) better. The cheek operculum are stiff and can cut, and do not collapes out of water.
The 3rd pic is the male(same male) and female out of water. The male is on the right as you look at the pic. The bristles are collapsed and he is really mad. Notice how extended the operculum bristles are.
The last pic is a closer look at the male out of water.
Before anyone asks they were only out of water for a couple of minutes
carol
Ps
Todd- I had two females spawn in the same cave with the same male one day apart Wow it was a cave full of eggs
Carol
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Old May 15th, 2009  
Fish Master
 
If I knew that 2 females would spawn with one male I would have put both my females in the same tank... I guess shes getting moved tomm to the tank with the couple. Thanks for sharing Carol!
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Old May 15th, 2009  
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Originally Posted by steveangela1 View Post
If I knew that 2 females would spawn with one male I would have put both my females in the same tank... I guess shes getting moved tomm to the tank with the couple. Thanks for sharing Carol!
Angela it was so cool I know it was different females because one was long fin and one was standard(short) fin. Saw both lay eggs. The clusters looked like large orange raspberrys Daddy took care of them all. I don't how often this happens. Most females lay eggs and never look back
Carol
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Old May 16th, 2009  
Fish Addict
 
BN catfish swapn in the hundreds. might i ask how many of them made it through
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Old May 16th, 2009  
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BN catfish swapn in the hundreds. might i ask how many of them made it through
Do you mean how many survived the double spawning? Right at two hundred
As some would get to 3/4 inch they were separated out and went to the fish house until I would have them down to the number I wanted to keep.
Carol
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Old May 16th, 2009  
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Do you mean how many survived the double spawning? Right at two hundred
As some would get to 3/4 inch they were separated out and went to the fish house until I would have them down to the number I wanted to keep.
Carol
i mean that out of how many eggs were layed, how many survived?
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