Chief_waterchanger

We had the one of the two pair in this 55g breed twice in the same cave a couple of months ago, but they stopped for about 2 months. We realized finally that they bred when we stopped waterchanges on the tank for a few weeks. (The first time they bred we had skipped their tank for 3 or 4 weeks, the second time was about the same.) So we didn't do a waterchange for 2 weeks and here are eggs. I believe they were laid yesterday (10-26-07) because the male had been in the cave for a day or two then left only long enough for the female to go in for a few minutes then right back in he went and chased everything away. Late yesterday evening he was seen doing the tell-tell fanning action with his pelvic, anal, and pectoral fins. And today this picture was taken.

Edit: Forgot to mention about a quarter of these fry will be albino.

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Butterfly

Oh so they still like the "magic" wood
CONGRATS!!
Carol

Kevin

thats weird...you would think that fish like cleaner water to breed in...guess they get more "exciting" foods and start breeding

Dino

This mimics what happens in the wild.
Over the dry period, the water warms up and collects more fish waste.
When the rainy season starts, the water becomes cooler and the fish waste is flushed away.

Sabi

I see, well thats great!
One question, why will the fry be albino when the parents are gold + white?

Dino

The adults carry the recessive gene for albinism.

If two of their fry bred that were albinos, they would produce 100% albino babies.

Chief_waterchanger

It looks like the second female in the tank is laying eggs ontop of the eggs from the first female in the same cave for the same male to watch.. breeding trigger most definately.

For everyone who is not "Family" (Butterfly, Dino, Me, Tennhound, Gunnie) we used to call Carol's (Butterfly) water 'sex water' because the plecos we could not get to breed would breed like mad for her, it was quite humerous. Then she had to go and move to another state and no more sex water.

Dino

Here's a break down of what these fish will be:

25% will be regular colored and not carry albinism, and will produce only regular colored babies

50% will be regular colored and carry albinism, and produce both albino and regular colored babies

25% will be albino and produce only alibino babies

Butterfly

No more sex water but you still have the "magic driftwood"
Kevin- I think what happens in the wild is that the water gets lower and more waste concentrated, more leaf litter. The fish would spawn, then spring rains would come and raise the water and wash copious amounts of food into the water. Thus supplying food and fresh water for the fry.
Before I moved I was breeding bristlenose, corys, and an undescribed species of pleco, angels and guppys. what seemed to work for me was to feed them very heavily on veggies and a little protein(this is called conditioning them) and just kind of ignoring them for a week or two and then do a super water change and they would lay faithfully every two weeks for weeks on end. Dinos and CWC's BN's didn't wait for that super water change.
The corys don't guard their eggs they would just keep the glass covered in eggs.
There seemed to be something spawning at my house all the time
Hopefully it will be that way again soon
Carol
Carol

Chief_waterchanger

I observed eggs in the driftwood cave again last night. That makes -ATLEAST- 3 known spawnings between the 2 pair of L107 bristlenose in the 55g in the last month. (Conditions must be right for one of the females to have have 2.5-3 weeks rather than the 4-6 normal between spawns.

Sabi

How long will it take for the eggs to hatch? What happened to the first 2 lots?
Happy to hear it btw!

Chief_waterchanger

The first two lots hatched and are so small that they hide from us in the 55g unless we spend several minutes searching for them.

It takes about 3 days for the eggs to hatch and they spend 2-3 days as wigglers, then the daddy pleco guards them and ours usually have to escape daddy's clutches rather than him giving them up.

Sabi

Thats just great! What do you feed them? Do any of the adults show aggression/eat them?

Dino

After they escape from the cave they are born in, the adults pretty much ignore then.

Chief_waterchanger

The tank as a whole gets:

Tropical flake
Veggie flake
Algae wafers
Shrimp pellets
zucchini slices
veggie sticks

occasionally we put some earthworm sticks as well as brine shrimp cubes.

The L107 eat part of all of that.