pinkfloydpuffer

Lately I've noticed that Rodya stays towards the bottom alot and isn't as active as my other bettas. He also seems to rest on the gravel like in the picture, or on his stomach. I'm afraid he's sick. Is there anything wrong? Is there anything I can do to help him?

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cognizant

Hughie was acting the same way a few days back and I had no idea what was wrong with him. No visible signs of illness. Eventually I changed the filter in his tank to a less powerful one and shoved a plant in front of it. Now he is swimming all over the place. I am not sure if there is a filter where Rodya is, but it may be that the filter is too powerful or he isn't used to swimming in the current yet (he is your newest addition, right?)

I am sure someone else will come around with more helful information, but I was just reminded about what I just went through.

PS: Maybe he feels left out that he isn't included in your sig.

RandomKayos

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RandomKayos

Lucy

I'm sorry Rodya's feeling poorly.

Have you checked the water? Does he seem bloated? Is he eating ok?
Can he see the betta next to him?
Sorry for all the questions.
I agree, if the filter is too strong for fim, that could be whats going one.

pinkfloydpuffer

Actually there is hardly any current. He is only seeming to come up every once in a while for air, and then going back down. I can't get him to eat. I tested the water yesterday and everything was normal. He could possibly be bloated.

EDIT: Thanks for the help, by the way. And I just changed my signature.

Lucy

What happened to the posts?

If he looks bloated, see if he'll eat a few bits (about the size of his eye) of thawed shelled frozen pea.

How long has it been since he's eaten?

pinkfloydpuffer

I'll go see if we have any peas. He ate at least a couple Hikari Bio-Gold pellets yesterday.

EDIT: Gah! No peas! Anything else that will work? I might have to run to the store and pick up some peas...

Lucy

Daphnea works if they're bloated, but most of us don't keep that on hand either. lol

I wouldn't worry about running out tonight getting peas, if it's just that he's bloated, fasting will do him some good.

Does he seem to be listing at all?

pinkfloydpuffer

He doesn't seem to be listing. His nose is usually pointing slightly down though most of the time. He seems to be free-floating quite a bit.

RandomKayos

I realized my advice was not asked for so it was retracted.

RK

Lucy

I'm stumped.
Assuming he's not too bloated.
If you've got some garlic juice, like the kind from minced garlic in a jar, you can try soaking a pellet in it to stimulate his appetite and add a couple drops of juice to his tank water.

When a fish lays around and doesn't eat, my thoughts go to parasites, but I can't be sure.

Sorry, I'm not much help.

Edit:

She didn't ask anyone specific, she just needs some help, so jump right in with any ideas.

Often times a few of us will post at the same time with the same info, you'll see it happen in many threads.
I think those are the ones some people think the members jumped on an op, but it's just that people were typing at the same time.

pinkfloydpuffer

Well, he looks bigger than usual. So hopefully it's just that he's bloated. *fingers crossed* I'll try the garlic. If nothing changes in a few days, even with peas, and if it is possibly parasites, what actions should be taken?

Lucy

Yeah, if he looks bigger than normal, get the peas tomorrow. My betta loves them. I give them as a treat once a week to ummm...keep things moving. lol

If it's parasites Parasite Clear is a goos medication to use. But try the peas first.

pinkfloydpuffer

Alright, thank you so much. Yes, I was definitely going to give the peas a try first, and resort to the parasite treatment only if he isn't better in a few days. I'll get some peas when I get off school tomorrow night, and hopefully I'll be able to get him to eat them!

sirdarksol

I'm sorry your fish isn't feeling well. Best wishes and prayers for him.

pinkfloydpuffer

Thanks Sirdarksol. I appreciate it.

Lucy

Let us know how he's doing tomorrow.

pinkfloydpuffer

I certainly will. Thanks everyone for the help and support.

pinkfloydpuffer

When I left at 6:30 this morning he didn't look any different. I'll get him the peas today, but unfortunately I won't be home until about 9 PM. I hope he'll be alright being alone all day today.

Lucy

I'm sure he will be.
If it's bloat, fasting today won't hurt him.
Just give him a couple bits of thawed frozen shelled pea tonight, too much can help contribute to bloating, like over feeding.

pinkfloydpuffer

Thanks Lucy. I just love to worry about my babies, and freak out when there might be something wrong. I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

pinkfloydpuffer

Ok, I just got home, and I couldn't get him to eat any peas, and I'm afraid he might be pineconing! His scales seems to be sticking out a tiny bit. Oh my gosh I am freaking out now!

Lucy

oh no, I hope not. Can you post a pic? It could be dropsy.

pinkfloydpuffer

Well, my camera is crappy, so you can't really see anything. Oh my gosh, I'm like bawling my guts out right now.

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Lucy

I can't really tell by the pic, so you'd be the best judgement if his scales are pineconing.

I've never had to deal with it. From what I've read, it can be caused by a bacterial infection and in the early stages, Maracyn and Maracyn-Two combined might help him.

If you decide to treat him move him to another tank so the other fish don't get meds they don't need and they would probably hurt the cycle.

In this thread, there's a pic of a betta with dropsy and Rose (Chickadee) has some good recommendations.
I want to prepare you first, the betta in this thread didn't make it.
But please don't panic since you're not sure if his scales are stcking out or not.
http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/be...m-bladder.html

clinton1621

I would tend to agree with Lucy, it could very well be dropsy... and I think laying on the bottom is a sign of that right? At any rate, dropsy can be caused by internal infections that are blocking off his intestinal tract... so an antibiotic may be in order. I'm sorry he is not feeling well =(

pinkfloydpuffer

Well, it certainly doesn't look that bad. It's just slightly poking out kinda around his stomach.
I don't have another tank, my parents wouldn't let me get another one. I still have Maracyn-2 left though.

Lucy

Right, but laying on the bottom can be a symptom of a few things, same as not eating. However, if he is pineconing, I'm pretty sure that's not a symptom of anything else but dropsy.

clinton1621

I would error on the side of safety and treat him for an infection, it definitely wont hurt him any even if its not that. Also the earlier you treat for infections, the better chance the fish have of surviving =)

Edit : you are right Lucy, I was also putting the swelling and the laying on the bottom together, I guess I should have been more specific lol