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Old March 13th, 2010  
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Help!! What is up with this fish?

I bought this koi at a Walmart about a year ago and just a couple of days ago it started to get pretty swollen. These sores are on both sides and if you touch them they bleed for a while. Is this dropsy? I have a bunch of other fish in the tank. 3 plecos, 5 kois, 1 crawdad.

The tank has been set up for about 2 years now. We got this particular fish about a year ago.

Is it contagious? What should I do? The fish is lethargic, doesn't eat and sort of just hangs out in the bottom corner of the tank. He hasn't done the headstand yet, but he does drift around quite a bit.

I haven't done any of the tests as described yet... I will do that in the morning if I don't get a response back. Please help. Thanks in advance.
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Old March 13th, 2010  
Fish Master
 
welcome to fishlore!! Im sorry your baby isnt feeling well
without tests for ammonia/nitrites/nitrates, its really hard to rule things out....but I can say with goldies, they like to rest on the bottom at night and it almost looks like the crawdad has taken a nip or two at him.....but it also could be severe ammonia poisioning as you have a huge huge bioload in that tank ....id remove the crawdad and see if you can find some amquel+ or prime and do a few weeks of partial daily water changes....some stress coat+ can help heal him up ....good luck!
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Old March 13th, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
WOW 5 Koi and three plecos in one tank!!! You must have a huge tank there. That many Koi should not be in anything smaller them at the very least 1,000gal. or more. If your tank is smaller then this then you may have an over crowding problem. The fish may be fighting each other just like crowding oscars they will tare each other apart if the tank is to small. I would say start digging a pond out doors for these fish.
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Old March 14th, 2010  
Fish Mentor
 
It looks to me like your Shubunkin (not a Koi) has been attacked by your crawdad. Put the crawdad in it own tank. Melafix is an excellent medication for injured goldfish. Test your water for Ammonia, Nitrites, and Nitrates. Do all your "Koi" look like this one in coloring? If so, then they are more than likely all Shubunkins, not Koi. If you could post pictures, it would help with the identification. What kind of plecos do you have in with them? Goldfish and plecos are both high waste-producing fish. Shubunkins are also very strong swimmers and need lots of swimming room. Also, the Shubunkins can grow to 12-14 inches in length. A 60 gallon really isn't going to be a good fit for 5 shubunkins. Add in the 3 Plecos, and your tank is very overstocked. With that many Shubunkins, you may want to look into a pond. They really should be in a larger area to provide enough swimming room as well as the increased volume of water to handle the ammonia. Please do get a liquid test kit and test your water as soon as you can. As long as there isn't too much internal damage, there is every chance that your injured Shubunkin will recover completely. The main things to do are to remove the crawdad, keep the water as clean as possible, and (if you can) treat with Melafix to prevent infection. The Melafix will not bother the other fish so you don't really need to worry about setting up a quarantine tank as long as the other fish are leaving the injured one alone. It could be more stressful for the injured fish to move it at this point. In my opinion, Crawdads and Fish do not generally make good tank mates. Crawdads will catch and eat fish - even ones that are much larger than they are.
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Old March 14th, 2010  
Fish Mentor
 
hummm..I concur with the above....the fish in your picture is not a Koi. That is a Walmart problem....they have no idea and mix their Goldfish looking type fish up!!
Ditto on the the rest of the posts...you are puching the limit hard!!
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Old March 14th, 2010  
Fish Keeper
 
No I didn't think they were Koi either but I thought well maybe it's just the picture that the barbles don't show in it. But either way he's going to need something bigger for all those big fish.
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