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Old July 17th, 2009  
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What should I do with my PH?

Greetings all I done a little reading on pH and have seen many posts stating a stable PH is better than trying to get a perfect PH using chemicals such as PH Down. My tank is cycled but my PH level is at 8 roughly. I just did a 20% water change and added PH down and was wondering if this was a mistake? Should I just leave the PH alone when I do water changes and just use a conditioner? Thanks all.
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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welcome to FishLore !

I wouldn't add any ph reducing product, because by doing so you will have to rely on using the product all the time, in order to keep the tank at that particular ph.

It's better to keep the ph where it normally adjusts, that way it will remain consistent.

btw, I see you have a new tank. Is it cycled yet? Keeping ammonia and nitrite levels at 0 are critical for new tanks. Also, they are more toxic at higher ph levels, so make sure to test your water frequently! Prime is a good water conditioner that removes chlorine, chloramine, heavy metals, plus it detoxifies both ammonia and nitrite.
If you need any help regarding that, please don't hesitate to ask !

Last edited by joy1125; July 17th, 2009 at 12:33 PM.
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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my nitrate and nitrite levels are good i have 0 for nitrites. my ph is 8 though. tank is newly bought but i bought it used with the filter that came with it, so it had beneficial bacteria on it. thanks for the reply i will not use ph down anymore. quick question was wondering if it was normal for some of my fish to be on one side of the fish tank? are fish picky. Second question is ammonia the same as Nitrites? I don't have ammonia listed on my water test kit
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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no, ammonia is different. Ammonia is produced by fish waste, uneaten food and anything decaying in the tank, like plants. Good bacteria form to process the ammonia, which then turns into nitrite; and yet another form of good bacteria process the nitrite into nitrAte. Ammonia is the most toxic, and nitrite is toxic as well. Nitrate is fine in low levels, aim to keep it around 10 or under.

Get an ammonia test kit, preferably an API liquid test. It is probably the most important tester for the tank.

Your ph of 8 is fine. But keep it stable.

Test your tap water and see what the tap ph is.

Doing weater changes regularly, even small ones daily or every other, is a good way to maintain stable water chemistry in your tank, including a stable ph. Not everyone does this, some prefer to do one large change once a week. For me, I choose to do several small ones frequently, in addition to the larger one when I vacuum the tank. It's personal preference.

If you choose to do larger water changes once a week, just make sure the ph of the new water going into the tank is close to the existing water in the tank. Even small ph differences can shock or even kill fish.

So for instance, let's say your tap water is 7 ph. To do a water change, you'd have to do it slowly, adding water a bit at a time, as not to shock the fish.

BUT if you do small water changes frequently during the week, the ph will stay fairly close to the tap. See what I mean? Then you don't have to worry about a big fluctuation at water change time.

Of course, there are reasons why ph could fluctuate up and down in aquariums, but there's no need to get into that since that doesn't seem to be a problem you are having.
Yours is staying at 8, correct? If it is, that is fine.
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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Yes my PH is at 8. thanks for the help? I was wondering if you knew why 3 out of the 4 fish I have prefer staying on one side of the tank?
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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not sure, could be a number of things, or nothing at all.
Do you have the filter on the side they are staying away from? perhaps the outlflow current is too strong for them. Where's the placement of the airstone?

Maybe the one fish on the other side is a bully, and the other 3 are avoiding him? Have you noticed anything like that going on? any nipped fins or anything?

just wanted to add..... I noticed you have tetras; they are schooling fish, and prefer to be in schools of 6 or more. Maybe that has something to do with it. Are the fish active ?

Last edited by joy1125; July 17th, 2009 at 04:06 PM.
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Old July 17th, 2009  
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great advice from joy !!!! I just would like to caution that the ph up and down chemicals that are used, can kill any beneficial bacteria so as joy recommended, getting an api liquid master test kit is important to know where your tank parimeters are daily...if you can also find either prime, amquel+ or ammo lock, that will be a huge benefit to the fish if you arent fully cycled...doing partial daily water changes with one of those will detox the ammonia and nitrites (if you get them from using the ph chemicals) which are deadly to fish, for 24 hours until another water change.....do you have a nitrate reading when you tested?
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Old July 18th, 2009  
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yes my nitrate level is around 6, nitrites 0. For joy, the lone fish that stays on the left side of my tank is indeed a bully, he's an x-ray fish and will chase any of the 3 fishes that come to his side. Fin's aren't nipped for either fishes. I agree they are schooling fish I plan on getting more lemon tetras. My fish are active for the most part but the 3 fish that are avoiding the bully just stay on the right side closes to the filter. The non-bully x-ray fish isn't that active he sort of just stays in his corner and moves every now and then.
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