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Old February 22nd, 2008  
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Hi!

Ah. I'm a bit of a Catfish geek... I read about lots of Catfish before making my desicion just to get a BN and 6 corys. you've got 12inches left in there... Sharks are out of the question, too aggresive for the Pearls and they'll go back to the sorry state they used to be in. You can ask the LFS to get some Flash/clowns for you?

Wait, lunch. I'll edit this post and finish it when I'm back up. Look around Planet Catfish and find a few catfish you like the look of in the mean time. See you...



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Old February 22nd, 2008  
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lol k, kinda wierd its only 9 in the morning over here. and when you get back, are there any catfish you reccomend that aren't shy or nocturnal?
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Old February 22nd, 2008  
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Hi!

It's half 2 over here! Yeah - it was a late lunch...

Right, you have 15inches more space in there. Now, the obvious small, peaceful catfish is a school of corys. Talking catfishes are basically 100% nocturnal. There isn't really many cats I'd say would go well in there, apart from those plecos we where talking about and corys. Here are some fish I reccomend to 'fill the gaps':

6 Panda, Sterbai, Julii, Bandit or Leopard cory cats,
10 Common (AKA Silver) hatchets,
3 more female cherry barbs, 1 more male cherry barb and 6 Common hatchets,
8 Harlequin rasboras, (Highly recommended!)
8 Oto cats, (Watch it with these guys. They are very sensitive, they're basically mini-BN's otherwise)



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Old February 25th, 2008  
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I really like the rasboras although I kinda want something a little bigger, doesn't have to school at all, just needs to look nice, sorry for being so difficult when asking for advice, just want some pets rather than something to show my guests.
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Old February 25th, 2008  
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Hi!

Isn't that the pearl gouramis? They get to 10-12cm and are stunning to look at.
Now, this will be hard! Since you can't keep different labyrinth fish species together (The main large, pretty fish family AKA Gouramis and Bettas) there aren't really many fish like that, especially non-schooling ones. Cichlids don't tend to get on with Labyrinths either - so Angelfish aren't an option. Hey - what about a trio of male Swordtails? They are very nice to look at and get to around 12cm, plus they won't end up eating the barbs!

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Old February 26th, 2008  
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Swordtails look good, I heard that they need a little salt in the water so, I don't know what issues may come up there.
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Old February 26th, 2008  
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Hi!

Swords don't need salt in their water. It can be beneficial - otherwise Swords are extremely easy to keep.


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Old February 27th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Thats good to know, Il consider these fish now, I hope I finally settle on something, also I know its probably natural but my pearls are showing a little aggression toward each other now that they're used to the tank. Nothing to serious though from what I've seen.
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Old February 27th, 2008  
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Hi!

They are probably establishing dominance between each other. Swords are pretty cool fish - always swimming at the front and very pretty and peaceful. There are quite a few varietys of swords - so work out which ones you want!


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Old February 28th, 2008  
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Well I'm still enjoying my pearls quite a bit as of now, I just like the idea of more fish, I am also just attracted more to larger fish, ones that can be alone. It seems that when you get a school of fish you communicate with the entire school not one fish induvidually. One of my best friends has a beautiful tank filled with all pet fish, the only fish he has more than one of are a pair of iridescents. I can see that he has such a connection with each of his fish that I personally am quite jealous of. First I was hunting a schooling fish, now I just want pets rather than some eye candy. even though I still want attractvie fish. I also enjoy long fins and fluid movement. So bettas and catfish are a top choice. I hope I can stock the rest of my tank eventually.
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Old February 28th, 2008  
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Hi!

Bettas and gouramis don't mix. Aren't you geting another tank for a betta soon? A tiny one?

What do you think of Swords then? No, they aren't schoolers. Really if you want 'pet' fish you need a tank dedicated to them, like a Betta tank or Neville's Oscar tank.

No catfish really suit what you want I'm afraid - apart from BN's and other dwarf plecos. Although they don't tend to have personality I guess.

I think Swordtails will be the only thing that suits what you want Buddy.You can just get 1 sword if you like. I'd get 3, each one a different strain.

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Old February 29th, 2008  
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Eh, and I do plan to get an eclipse 5 or 6, for a betta. I still don't know about the swords, from the pictures I've seen I'm not very interested at the moment. Maybe if I see some first hand then I'll like them more. The only thing I can think of is having more gouramis, but I'm not sure how that'll go.
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Old February 29th, 2008  
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Hi!

Different species of gouramis don't get along. You could re-arrange the tank and get 1 male Pearl and 2 more female pearls if you really want gouramis.

Look at pics of loads of different strains of swords. Not just the red and orange ones! They come in a lot of the colours platys come in.


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Old March 1st, 2008  
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OK Hatchet not to seem like I just ignored that last post, but I have been given the opportunity of free opaline gouramis, this is quite the conundrum as the guy I am talking to is moving away, he wants to start over on all his stuff, this is mostly due to the fact that the move will take place over several weeks and he beleives his fish will die, he said free opalines or he will just leave them in the tanks and hopes they survive until he can move them. I know this sounds neglectful but thats why I want to save them. I will not even bother if you think the opals will hurt my pearls, but they are beautiful and I want them to live. Please tell me what to do, and I will look at swords when I find out that I can't get the opals(I love gouramis!!!)
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Old March 1st, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

Well, like Betta, gouramis have a nasty habit of fighting. It would be possible if his opals are female. How many Opals have you been offered, anyway? They are very large fish (15cm), so you'd only really be able to house 2. It would probably work - as long as you only take 2 Opals (preferably female.).


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Old March 1st, 2008  
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Thats good, they are from what he says store size(about 1 1/2-2 inches) and are two female and one male I beleive, I trust your judgment so if you give me a redlight then I'll just forget this ever happened.
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Old March 1st, 2008  
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Oh and BTW I know about their aggressive ways and that is exactly why I was asking, I just can't handle it if my fish don't have an environment in which they're not happy.
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Old March 1st, 2008  
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Also I have been calling these fish opals but when I check the profile here says that they are also called blue and three spot gouramis, but the opals I have seen just have that blue tiger look, not like the blue gouramis you see at a fish store. So what are they really called?
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Old March 2nd, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

Take 2 females - not the male. He could get nasty!

There is a species of gourami known as the Three spot gourami. Now, breeders have been clever and managed to breed 2 new varieties of 3SG - the Opaline and Gold gourami. Opals are Opaline gouramis.


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Old March 3rd, 2008  
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Thats interesting, I have seen the golds in my lfs and they are beautiful, I hope I can get the opals soon.
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Old March 3rd, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

Good luck with the Opals! Are you planning on adding any live plants?


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Old March 5th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I already have some sort of plant the guy at my lfs sold me, dont know what it is. But I really want a broadleaf plant like amazon swords that will thrive in a gravel substrate.
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Old March 6th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

Post pics of your plants and I'll do ID.


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Old March 7th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
Camera is broken, sister thought she should take it with her one weekend to grandma's and dropped it one to many times. Could I use a camera phone? Also what if some of the plants are disappearing? I've noticed that some of the plants are gone with no remains and I don't think the fish could have eaten them, most of them were over eight inches tall.
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Old March 7th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

Decent quality cellphone pics would be great. Remember you only need to get the plants in the shot - so don't spend hours trying to get the fish to sit still! Did you un-bunch them? Try PlantGeek.com for great info on plants.

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Old March 11th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
I did un-bunch them, I saw that the pearls love picking at them, for what reason I don't know, and the opals plan didn't work out at all. The guy I was talking to dropped of all his stuff at a relatives house who knows nothing about fish. He said for my trouble a single male german blue ram. This was because his tank was cracked in the transfer and he didn't want to keep him with any other fish. Weird huh? well I got a ram out of it. he was doing fine last I checked, also I'm not to worried about the plants they weren't expensive.
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Old March 11th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

What tank is the GBR in? I guess you put it in that 20gal.

The pearls are just eating tiny bacteria off the plants. Ask my fish - those bacteria taste great according to them!

Well, back to the drawing board I guess. Still intent on large fish? Platys would be nice.

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Old March 13th, 2008  
Fish Keeper
 
The ram is actually in the tank with the pearls, he is doing fine except that I think the pearls are rather jealous, they seem to want to float in front of him so I can't see him. Its also so fun to watch him feed, because as soon as the food hits the water he flares all his fins, this might be a warning to the other fish, but any other time he doesn't seem to notice the other fish. I might get him some females to hang out with, from what I hear they are hard to breed so no unwanted fry. from there I don't think I'll have much room for anything else.
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Old March 13th, 2008  
Fish Master
 
Hi!

I'm no expert on rams or other cichlids, you should ask on the cichlid forum about rams + angels.

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Old March 19th, 2008  
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well he died recently from a blisterous tumor like thing on his mouth, it wasn't to big I mean he could eat past it and did. All that I know is that within the day that I saw it he died so I had no time to treat it.
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