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January 30th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Oto found dead!:(
Hi
My first oto is dead.  I found him now. I cant make out anything wrong on his body. For those of you who know i had him, only, i bought him a pal on sunday. I meant to update my thread but didn't have the time. They chased one another every now and then and i thought it was play.  Now what could've been the problem? All other fish in my main tank is perfectly fine i'll get the water readings here asap, however the last i checked it was in order...
TNX
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January 30th, 2008
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Master Of Fish Poo!
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 I'm sorry that you lost him. Unfortunately, the Otos can be pretty sensitive and it could have been water chemistry but also could have been internal. Was his belly sunken?
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January 30th, 2008
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Fish Master
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 Aw that is sad. Sorry you lost him.
I just got an oto today for Mr.Peach's tank.
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January 30th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Unfortunately, most otos are caught in the wild by having their habitat dosed with cyanide.
They arrive at the petstores suffering the lingering effects of the poison and are starving, and that's why they seem to be so fragile.
The ones who can actually recover from all this normally go on to live healthy lives.
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January 30th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbrella
Unfortunately, most otos are caught in the wild by having their habitat dosed with cyanide.
They arrive at the petstores suffering the lingering effects of the poison and are starving, and that's why they seem to be so fragile.
The ones who can actually recover from all this normally go on to live healthy lives.
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Oh that is aweful!
Sabi, I'm sorry you lost him 
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January 30th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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That's sad, I'm sorry you lost your oto.
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January 31st, 2008
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Fish Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbrella
Unfortunately, most otos are caught in the wild by having their habitat dosed with cyanide.
They arrive at the petstores suffering the lingering effects of the poison and are starving, and that's why they seem to be so fragile.
The ones who can actually recover from all this normally go on to live healthy lives.
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That is why I have been looking for them thru our fish community. I know if they've been in someone else's tank and all their fish are fine...they fish should be fine. Unless the stress of the move kills them.
 There should be fish foster home programs...like cats & dogs. My boyfriend loves taking care of fish and bringing them back to health. As do I.
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January 31st, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Or maybe natural habitats shouldn't be poisoned to collect fish for the pet trade. 
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February 2nd, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Hey, Thanks everyone! Sorry i havn't been to update this thread but it has been a busy 2 days.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbrella
Unfortunately, most otos are caught in the wild by having their habitat dosed with cyanide.
They arrive at the petstores suffering the lingering effects of the poison and are starving, and that's why they seem to be so fragile.
The ones who can actually recover from all this normally go on to live healthy lives.
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That is terrible, why is such things allowed.
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Originally Posted by COBettaCouple
 I'm sorry that you lost him. Unfortunately, the Otos can be pretty sensitive and it could have been water chemistry but also could have been internal. Was his belly sunken?
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No, his belly was huuge and round....
But i witnessed something totally shocking 2 days ago. My 2nd oto was sucking on my angels and driving them frantic! I was just too amazed. I've since took him out and put him in my other tank. As i said prev. i saw some chasing going on between the 2 oto's when i just got the second one. Could it be that the 2nd was sucking on the 1st oto?
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February 2nd, 2008
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Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
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Otocinclus sp.:
Otocinclus are diligent algae eaters, but are best kept in schools due to their small size. One per 10 gallons is a useful rule of thumb. Various species of otos are seen in the shops at various times; most are good algae eaters but some seem to prefer the slime coat on fish to algae. Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to distinguish the "attack otos" from normal otos.
Otos seem to be very delicate fish, but this is probably due to capture and shipping abuse rather than an inherent weakness. When a fish shop gets some in, it is wise to wait a while before purchasing to account for die offs. Most people report getting a dozen and having them die over a period of a few months until just a couple are left. Those then seem to last for a long time.
The above came from the following:
http://www.plantgeek.net/article_viewer.php?id=9
The oto that is attacking the angels will have to be kept away from other fish evidently or if you have just purchased the oto in the last couple of weeks you can see about taking it back and telling them that it is not compatible with your fish and tell them what it does. They will dispose of it rather than place it for sale in one of their tanks and have it doing that to THEIR fish.
Rose
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February 4th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Thanks for that bit of info, Rose. Guess i won't keep him with the angels.
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February 4th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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Sorry for the problems your experiencing I've never heard of this type of behavior from ottos, I'll just stick to the bristlenose for algae control.
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February 4th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcicius
Sorry for the problems your experiencing I've never heard of this type of behavior from ottos, I'll just stick to the bristlenose for algae control.
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As Rose mentioned, there are some that break the general rule, so to speak. Guess i just ended up with the wrong type. My first one was darling tho.
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February 5th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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You live you learn, espeially with aquariums.
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February 9th, 2008
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Moderator ~ Betta Mommy
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I do disagree with one thing in the article. The ratio of otos is actually more like you can have 2 otos in a tank for each 10 gallons and it will support them fine. I have even had 2 otos in 5 gallons and it was fine but their diet had to be supplemented more frequently. You just do not want to go over the 2 to 5 gallons ratio or they will starve for lack of edible material.
(they will need some supplementation anyway)
Rose
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February 10th, 2008
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Fish Keeper
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I hope you don't have anymore trouble with your other otto over time. Good luck with the tank, and btw post some pics I love seeing other tanks.
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February 10th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbrella
Unfortunately, most otos are caught in the wild by having their habitat dosed with cyanide.
They arrive at the petstores suffering the lingering effects of the poison and are starving, and that's why they seem to be so fragile.
The ones who can actually recover from all this normally go on to live healthy lives.
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Hi!
That's the last time I ever buy an Oto! Why? This is aweful.
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February 10th, 2008
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Fish Mentor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcicius
I hope you don't have anymore trouble with your other otto over time. Good luck with the tank, and btw post some pics I love seeing other tanks.
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The other oto is fine, but i wont be keeping him long as he tends to sick on flat shaped fish and i intend getting discus in the tank he is in now.
Last edited by Sabi; February 10th, 2008 at 11:52 AM.
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