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Old January 19th, 2008  
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Unsure about buying otos

I currently have two guppies and two guppy fry in a ten gallon tank. A few days ago at my local fish store I was browsing for tankmates for my guppies and I saw the otos. They looked interesting enough and I asked the guy about the requrments for otos, he said that they weren't exakly easy to take care of and needed good filtration and that they ate algae. I am unsure about getting some because I don't know if I have the skill to take care of them. I am totally confused about the "Nitrogen Cycle". I thought that the Nitrogen cycle was a naturally occuring thing but other people say otherwise. I am also confused about how many to buy at once

Any information would be nice :]

- Austin
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Old January 19th, 2008  
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otos, are very peaceful fish and would probably get along with almost anything. Another bonus is they stay small, and do a great job a cleaning the tank. From personal experience i would say otos aren't terribly hard to take care of, but maybe i have just had good luck. I have a piece of driftwood, and mine enjoys munching on that. I also feed algae wafers on occasion to supplement their diet, if i see the tank is quite clean. They might clean it so well that they starve to death, if you don't supplement with wafers. The good news though is that guppies really enjoy the wafers..or at least mine do. The chinese algae eaters are quite aggressive, so i dont recommend them, and they would get too large for a ten gallon. You may want to think about just having guppies though, because they will soon overpopulate the tank.

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Old January 20th, 2008  
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I have a few more questions. Does your drift wood have plants on it for them to eat or are they just like eating the wood? And should I secure the algae wafers with a veggie clip? would they find it better like that? I sell my fry to the local fish store so I don't think I will have a problem with overpopulation

Also How many oto's do you think I should get?
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Old January 20th, 2008  
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Algae wafers: In my opinion, algae wafers should be just a treat. They are after all processed food, and I believe fish should get more natural food as often as possible. The big problem with algae wafers, also, is that they pollute the tank hugely. Wait till you find a fungus cover pill at the bottom of your tank and you'll know what I mean. Also, other, faster fish will get there before the otos, in general, as fish go absolutely crazy for the stuff.

What I feed them: I feed my otos carrots and cucumbers. Check out this thread for more feeding suggestions: http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/fi...cucumbers.html. What's great about carrots, is that they keep for way longer than cucumber in the water, and that no matter how much of fast eaters other fish are, there's no way they'll be that fast that they'll entirely finish the carrot before the otos get a chance. You just need to cut the carrot in two lenghtways, so the fish can access the more 'tender' (although it's still pretty hard flesh) flesh of the veggie. And then indeed, you would hold it against the tank glass with a veggie clip.

Common oto questions: This thread gives some advice on common problems/solutions with otos: Caresheet for otos.

Drift wood and plants: They don't so much need drift wood as other loricidae (e.g. plecos). If they are getting enough to eat, your otos won't eat your plants. So what I am saying is you should not be aiming at them eating plants, as that's an expensive (and not really esthaetic) strategy.

Ease of care: I wouldn't classify otos as easy. Most people report losses in the first few weeks of owning them. What to watch for with otos is that they don't starve to death (really common cause), that they don't get bullied (although you should totally be OK with livebearers), and that the water quality is top notch (they are not big on surviving high nitrates, and even traces of ammonia/nitrite). They also are quite sensitive to change and will get really stressed if they are changed from one tank to another frequently.
Zebra otos: Best of luck. Oh, a lastly, if you can get a hold of zebra otos (I believe their scientific name is O. cocama, but you might want to check), they're worth waiting for (you can order them from some fish stores). They're really pretty.

Oto fry: You'd be lucky if your otos get fry. And if they do, you'd be lucky if the fry survives the first few weeks. So don't worry about overpopulation. It's very unlikely you'll have that problem with otos, on the contrary.

School size: I try to keep my otos in schools of at least 6 where I have the space. More is better. They really are schooling fish and this will increase their chance of survival.

Last edited by armadillo; January 20th, 2008 at 07:48 AM.
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Old January 20th, 2008  
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From everything I've heard otos are best kept in a small group of 3, but in a 10g you'd definately have to suppliment their diet. Armadillo's carrot and cucumber idea is a good one, I would add zucchini to that list (in my opinion zucchini fouls the water less than cucumber and gets less oozy, but that is just me.)
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Old January 20th, 2008  
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Yeah, cucumbers can be really really really messy. You really have to smell one 12 hours after it's been in the water. Yuk!
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