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Old June 18th, 2009  
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Questions!

I think I might be allowed a 55g or a 60g breeder tank and would like to know if I kept an oscar in a tank that size will it bite me? Ived heard some cases where peoples hand get bitten and I heard it hurts a heckload so yeah. Iam still on the look out for fish to keep so Ill probably be trying to look around here for the perfect fish suited for me. And I like oscars because I heard theyre like puppies and they go up to you, that they like to be petted. I dont know much about this but would like to understand these sayings. Please help anyone?
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Old June 18th, 2009  
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I think I might be allowed a 55g or a 60g breeder tank and would like to know if I kept an oscar in a tank that size will it bite me?
Some oscars do, some don't... unfortunately, I don't think tank size will have any impact on that. If you choose to hand-feed, you run the risk of being bitten.

Large oscars have been reported to bite hard enough to draw blood on occasion, but they don't really have sharp cutting teeth in the front of their mouths like a piranha or gar, so you probably wouldn't be in danger of having your finger bitten off or anything
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Old June 18th, 2009  
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I personally don't think that a 55 gal. is large enough for an Oscar. They need a 75 gal. minimum, due to their bio-load & size. My friend had 2 Oscars, and they both bit.
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Old June 18th, 2009  
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Even though they bite it doesn't hurt. Although it scared me and I made a bigger splash than the Oscar did I did have a bruise about the size of a quarter on my upper arm. With larger fish it should be expected at some point.
I like to see Oscar's in at least 75g as well.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I had an Oscar in a 55 gal tank along with a Jack Dempsey, a Pleco and a turtle. They all did fine. My Oscar nipped at peoples finger, especially around feeding time but it never drew blood. I liked my Oscar a lot, great fun to feed live food.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Oscars need at least a 75g tank, for one oscar by itself. They get large and are messy fish.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well I am getting one or atleast want one I have a 55 long and will be getting this filtration system I think this the mother of all filters <3

http://www.aquariumguys.com/fluval-f...er-filter.html

tell me what you think? Is it good or what? x3
I also want to know all varieties that they have for oscars and pictures if possible so far all Ived seen are albino and normal tiger oscars. And a lemon one. But my question is if I get that bada** filter will I be set? I cant use sand because sand tends to be messy and basically gets dirty fast and needs to be sifted alot so I wanna see if I can use rounded argonite pebbles to keep the pH at 7-8 I also want to know what I can do to keep the filter safe from any oscar rampages. Can I glue drift wood to a side of the tank where the filter will be? and put the filter inside of that so it has openings for cleaning but wont get harmed. and chip off parts of the drift wood to make it smooth so the oscar doesnt get hurt and do the same with the heaters? Can I keep the light on at night and leave it off at day? I heard oscars are responsive towards their owners sort of like "water dogs" sometimes being called a water dog. Since I lost my best friend (a dog dont laugh please Dx) I want to get an oscar to replace the loss of my companion. Sorry for asking too many questions I have a natural curiosoty and like to know as much as I can o-o I want to be able to properly give it the best care I can possibly can. So I would like a list of the best filtration systems out there that will keep it to the cleanest point and keep it cycled. I also want to know do those products like "Biospira" work? Just add it and put the fish in? Thats what my LFS sales clerk said I can do seeing as I have no clue how to do those water readings. Can I put plastic plants in the tank? like glue them with aquarium glue to the bottom and make it so it has a hidding place?
also I have another filter in mind but dont know which one of the two is the best?
http://www.aquariumguys.com/emperorpower.html
will having a 100watt heater one on each end of the tank be good? or is that too much heating for a 55? Is there something besides a hood that can keep the oscar within the tank so it wont jump out? something he/she cant break?
What are the best medications I should have at hand? What are common illness in oscars and what are three types of foods that I should feed them? three types of treats?

Again sorry for all my questions. I read up on them alot but still there are questions left unanswered o.x

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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I guess you're going to get the Oscar against much of our advice.
The Oscar is not going to have the room to reach it's full potential in a 55.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Oscars need at least a 75g tank, for one oscar by itself. They get large and are messy fish.
Whats that beautiful blue fish on your siggy and Display picture? It looks like an electric blue <3 and I know theyre messy.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I guess you're going to get the Oscar against much of our advice.
The Oscar is not going to have the room to reach it's full potential in a 55.
Oh. then whats the best fish suited for a fishtank of that size? :<
As in I like some cichlids but I dont like any fish smaller than 5-6inches too hard to see for me from a distance x_x;; I also like puffers but dont have many options for that. I like rounded fish but if not rounded then most cichlids is there anything that has the same behaviour as an oscar do but can be kept in that tank size? Iam only looking for one fish.

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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I'm guessing that you want 1-2 large fish.
A Jack Dempsey would do well, as would a Green Terror.
If you want to have smaller cichlids, Convicts are a good choice.
Firemouths, Blue Acaras, Jewels are spunky medium cichids.
You could have an African Cichlid tank.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I'm guessing that you want 1-2 large fish.
A Jack Dempsey would do well, as would a Green Terror.
If you want to have smaller cichlids, Convicts are a good choice.
Firemouths, Blue Acaras, Jewels are spunky medium cichids.
You could have an African Cichlid tank.
I like african cichlids but my parents already have a 120 tank full of them o.e and yes I like large cichlids prefarably something that looks like an oscar and probably a little smaller but still big. :/ and can handle a 55 gallon perfectly well.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well, an Oscar in most senses is a dull fish.
A JD is black with green/blue flecks. IMO that would be best for your tank.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I like african cichlids but my parents already have a 120 tank full of them o.e and yes I like large cichlids prefarably something that looks like an oscar and probably a little smaller but still big. :/ and can handle a 55 gallon perfectly well.
Oh ps. I know this sounds stupid but Ived heard puffers are also like dogs in personality as in they come up to you and beg alot for food my friend owns one so I know what hes talking about because Ived seen it beg. But I like something that pretty much acts like that. I know oscars do but I dont know any other fish like it. I like angel fish but pretty much not suited for me. Btw Uhh so if a 55 is good umm in the fishlore fish profiles where it says minimum for an oscar is a 55 why not change that rule? so others wont get confused.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well, an Oscar in most senses is a dull fish.
A JD is black with green/blue flecks. IMO that would be best for your tank.
I like them too but how big do they get? And is there any other cichlid besides oscars that have that red flare to them? Thats something that kinda attracted me.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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In reality, an Oscar could SURVIVE in a 55 gal. It would NOT THRIVE. That's the difference. All of my fish beg, it just takes time for them to get to know you & know when feeding time is.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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JD's reach 8 - 9 in.
Firemouths have red gills, but they only reach 6 in.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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In reality, an Oscar could SURVIVE in a 55 gal. It would NOT THRIVE. That's the difference. All of my fish beg, it just takes time for them to get to know you & know when feeding time is.
Well from cichlids and all of those other families of fish for what IAm looking for which one is probably more suitable for my style?
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well,
Here's a JD:
Click the image to open in full size.

Here's some info on other cichlids:
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/Fishindx/cich-oth.htm
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well,
Here's a JD:
Click the image to open in full size.

Here's some info on other cichlids:
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/Fishindx/cich-oth.htm
hmm I saw a picture of the green terror cichlid I think you mentioned it and that I could keep it but... it says on the site that a 60gallon minimum
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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hmm I saw a picture of the green terror cichlid I think you mentioned it and that I could keep it but... it says on the site that a 60gallon minimum
Then again I think I also like the jack dempsey o.o I havent seen these colors before



if you would watch and tell me if thats an actual jack dempsey. it looks awesome.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I wouldn't go by gallons on that site, it also said an Oscar can be kept in a 50 gal.
A severum would be nice in a 55 gal. also.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Then again I think I also like the jack dempsey o.o I havent seen these colors before



if you would watch and tell me if thats an actual jack dempsey. it looks awesome.
Yep, that's a JD. It looks like a blue gene JD.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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I also like this one but dont know which one has a more pleasant personality towards their owner and less likely to bite. I also seen a guy pet an oscar I dont know if that was good or bad but it peeked my interest at a fish courage.

It looks like a mix of a carp, a sunny, and a oscar to a point(just the red tail xD)

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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Yep, that's a JD. It looks like a blue gene JD.
are you serious? I like both fish but probably shouldnt keep them together and Id rather have a lone fish. I like to focus on one particular animal and care for it well except my turtles <3 I have them in a large large tank xD I have 1 res and 2 common musk turtle one adult and one baby <3 But out of those two fish which one is probably more likely to have that attitude as in it wont shy away ever. That kind of draws back from the likelyhood of my wanting it. (Iam like a child x_x a child in an a teens body x_x) I want one of those two fish that probably has a more pleasant personality towards their owner
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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JD's are mean fish, lol. Green Terrors have that name for a reason.
Petting fish is a very bad idea, as that removes their slime coat.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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JD's are mean fish, lol. Green Terrors have that name for a reason.
Petting fish is a very bad idea, as that removes their slime coat.
How so? (about the meaness) x_x I dont want to be bitten the reason I wanted a fish is to reduce stress and okay I wont do it xD I will also tell my friend to stop doing it come tomorrow which is finals finale <3 what is probably the nicest fish that I can keep (towards their owner not other fish) I dont care if their "dirty" or not Iam getting a very good filtration system. I like goldfish but its not of my interest to keep 2-3 goldfish in a very large tank or semi large. This is video of a green terror is funny.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well....you keep saying nice to the owner...
May I ask why your hand is going to be in the tank anyway?? Unless you're doing a gravel vac, and most fish stay away from a gravel vac. I'm not saying the fish is going to brutally attack you, but it's not a fish that will like you in it's territory. I have a BR Parrot, and he bites me when I have my hand in the tank for any reason, so do my cons. My bettas bite too.
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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well....you keep saying nice to the owner...
May I ask why your hand is going to be in the tank anyway?? Unless you're doing a gravel vac, and most fish stay away from a gravel vac. I'm not saying the fish is going to brutally attack you, but it's not a fish that will like you in it's territory. I have a BR Parrot, and he bites me when I have my hand in the tank for any reason, so do my cons. My bettas bite too.
To do weekly maintnance. To try and figure out readings. << Maybe hand feed it. >> xD I know this sounds very well absurd but umm so this what shes doing in this video is bad?
Well seeing as for some reason my right click doesnt work. Do you mind going to youtube look up the user zeplinair and watch her videos on her goldfish she basically pets them and the goldfish keep comming for more. I really dont get that.
also this

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Old June 21st, 2009  
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Well....you keep saying nice to the owner...
May I ask why your hand is going to be in the tank anyway?? Unless you're doing a gravel vac, and most fish stay away from a gravel vac. I'm not saying the fish is going to brutally attack you, but it's not a fish that will like you in it's territory. I have a BR Parrot, and he bites me when I have my hand in the tank for any reason, so do my cons. My bettas bite too.
my betta bites too... well... tries to anyway
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